Latest discussion on repeaters(GF)

[Madi]

Not any of ur past discussion say us what exactly he is doing. I really dont need relevant things. That relevant might not work. There is nothing  special in his different thread. These r shadow even the graphs r carefully selected.

Be kind to us. Write down what he does exactly and everyone will test it.

[psimoes]

DSAA mentioned something relevant, I think. And it wasn´t refuted. Turbo seems to use a negative progression. Seeing that he bets no more than 6 numbers, well start from there...

Also Turbo´s personal permanence description hints at tracking 37 spins everytime on a rolling basis. Like a 37 spin window.

If for example #27 was the first number of a series of 37, and say #31 the second spin, then what would count as the 38th spin is now the 37th; that #27 gets discarded and #31 is now the first spin in the new 37 spin window...
This means if #27 was a "threepeater" in the old 37 spins window, once it gets discarded the remaining #27 are now regular "twopeaters". IF the 38th spin which is now the 37th in the new window, isn´t a #27, of course.

It´s a shame that Roulette Xtreme doesn´t do such monitoring. And I think such method must not be easy to use on a live wheel.

[psimoes]

This raises a question: at which point in time does he start betting?
It makes sense if starts to bet immediately after one number repeats.

Say that #27 is the first in the 37 spin window. As soon as it repeats, say by the 9th spin, he bets one unit. Now at say the 21st spin #27 hits again. He wins and collects the 14 units, and also leaves the bet in place, or makes a positive progression or whatever, since it´s still a "hot" number.
Now the window reached the 37th spin and #27 hasn´t showed up again. So as the first "27 to hit is discarded, for all that matters, in the new window #27 has shown only twice and the bets are updated accordingly.

[cht]

How does the probability of a hot number hitting differ from the probability of a cold number hitting over the next series of spins if it's a RANDOM GAME?

Why do you believe that a number that has hit is more likely to hit over the next series of spins than a number that has not hit at all??? ---------DSAA

This is a valid objection. 

However,

Well to be fair to TG I don't think he's trying to make a case for this at all. I think he's just trying to say that RANDOM game or not, statistically there are enough repeats to make his system work. ------- Mike(Jerome)

Sir A is attacking an argument you're not actually making; you're NOT saying that past spins INFLUENCE future spins (which is what dependence is about, and what he is accusing you of saying). Gambler's fallacy is about "triggers" and virtual bets, all of that nonsense. ------- Mike(Jerome)

Anyone who design their repeaters system based on the assumption that individual numbers that hit or 'hot' repeaters to have higher probability than those numbers that have not hit over the next series of numbers is committing gamblers fallacy.

[psimoes]

Turbo uses the following argument: take 37 people, one will always bet one unit on #1, another will always bet one unit on #2 and so on. A wheel will spin for 37 times and they all will bet every spin. So some people might win more than one time, some might win just one time and some will lose it all. Then, Turbo asks: "wouldn´t you like to be one of the people who wins, preferably more than once, in the course of 37 spins?"

Well here the Math is simple and it proves that repeaters won´t work flatbet.

Just multiply 37 by 37. This is the total of what the 37 bettors bring to the casino. Then multiply 36 by 37. This is the total of units the winners take home. And that´s it.

[Proofreaders2000]

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[Lucky7Red]

"wouldn´t you like to be one of the people who wins, preferably more than once, in the course of 37 spins?"

Well here the Math is simple and it proves that repeaters won´t work flatbet.

Can you give us more clues please.

[psimoes]

That´s all there is to it, really. But let´s elaborate.

1. 37*37=1369. The total number of wages by 37 flatbettors after 37 spins.

2. 36*37=1334. If progressions weren´t allowed, this is the absolute and obligatory total of units the casino would have to pay to winners (the original bet chip each player placed being given back to the player). It doesn´t matter how many punters are winners, and how many didn´t get anything. The casino has to pay that amount if all players place flat bets.

3. 1369-1334=37. These 37 units are the casino´s profit. 37 is 2.7% of 1369.

4. All the players that won more than once were just lucky. (All who won just once, less so. They all finished one unit short).

5. Imagine that one time a player assigned to bet on say #1 was extremely lucky and #1 hit 37 spins in a row! He or she was playing the hotest repeater in History and didn´t stop. Well Done! How much were the winnings, then? Answer: 1334 units. Or 1369-37. This should be proof enough that repeaters or hot numbers have no edge over the House.

6. Just like both winners and losers had no choice over which numbers they would place their bets, anyone playing Turbo´s method won´t have any advantage.

7. Just because a number hit two times there won´t be any guarantee it will hit a third time. While you´re there betting on all the numbers that hit two times, a cold number might awake and hit three times in a row. You might have placed a bet on that sleeper once it hit twice, but by that time you´ve lost money on the hot numbers that
decided to take a long nap.

8. Considering that a number that hit twice is the most likely to hit thrice is a fallacy. It´s like saying it´s "due".

9. In the long term all the numbers shall hit pretty much the same number of times. You could resume that to

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13...36,37 hitting after 37 spins.

[Lucky7Red]

Ok thanks.
So repeaters not working and I will try another way to work on this game of luck 

[Roulettebeater]

Ok thanks.
So repeaters not working and I will try another way to work on this game of luck 

I know it's too complicated !

[Lucky7Red]

I know it's too complicated !

For me yes  I will stick to my system so help me god. 

[Roulettebeater]

For me yes  I will stick to my system so help me god. 

I dunno but I guess you are over 64.
As a retired why you play roulette ? Do you still want to be rich after long working years ?

[Lucky7Red]

Ok you want to know my age. 41  do I know the hg, yep again  no hard work anymore,  what I doing here? to make jokes, it is easy for me 

[nottophammer]

P
Like your posts above.
Let’s look to 1 player only.
If player bets 1 unit every spin, they’ll use 703 units. Is this flat bet? Or the old slow progression 1,2,3,4 etc. To profit you’d need 20 wins of 35+1=36 so 36*20=720
Now I know from the Priyanka tracker, that 20 wins are rare but do happen, but with a more aggressive progression like 1,5,25 the unit wins of multiple 36 values would get bigger wins, but would this still make more wins against games lost.
On this sheet we see 12 repeats, but as it’s the slow progression 1,2,3,4  we get 16 win values of 36, so over these 37 bets it’s a loss

[nottophammer]

here from 14 repeats we achieve 20 unit win values of 36