Latest discussion on repeaters(GF)

[Roulettebeater]

Ok you want to know my age. 41  do I know the hg, yep again  no hard work anymore,  what I doing here? to make jokes, it is easy for me 

Hmm 41 is the right age to enjoy  the sun and the "Hotties" at the beach in Ibiza !

Instead of that You keep playing with your adrenaline's level on roulette !

[psimoes]

8. Considering that a number that hit twice is the most likely to hit thrice is a fallacy. It´s like saying it´s "due".

I realize the above point might generate some controversy.

To those who disagree: there´s Absolute Probability and there´s Conditional Probability. Two different things. One cannot be mistaken for another.

[cht]

Think of it as cycles within cycles overlapping each other.

The start of a new cycle may be the middle or end of another cycle.

The known probabilistic behaviour of one segment of a cycle that correlates to another known probabilistic behaviour of another segment of another cycle - the combined probability is higher than the fixed payout.

We can have a situation of x spins with the probabilistic expectation of a uniques and b repeats to occur where a+b = x - when the unique/repeat count is not equally distributed.

Is this possibile ?

[psimoes]

Not sure I understand what you´re talking about. The odds never change, no matter how you rearrange your bets, and the payout is unfair. Doesn´t matter how you stirr it, you can´t milk 11 out of 10, you can´t make something out of nothing.
No "combined probability higher than the fixed payout". No, in a fair wheel, not possible.

[praline]

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[psimoes]

One absolute probability would be: "in 37 spins several numbers will be repeaters, and the first number to hit twice will hit a third time". That would be great, right? You´d just have to bet on the first repeater to profit at least one unit guaranteed.
The truth in Roulette, though is: "in 37 spins, several numbers will be repeaters, and at least one may hit a third time, or may not". That´s conditional probability, and everytime you see a "condition" you are, let´s say, forced to hedge your bets on all the "several repeaters", because "one may hit thrice, or not" and you simply don´t know which. Either that, or you think it´s too many bets and decide to bet on less numbers, so you could make a decent profit, but you have no real idea on which numbers to bet and on which numbers to avoid. In other words you´ll be making a random selection. Random decisions, huh? In that case, then isn´t it pertinent to ask why take all the trouble with the hot numbers theory and all the tracking, in the first place?.

[cht]

One absolute probability would be: "in 37 spins several numbers will be repeaters, and the first number to hit twice will hit a third time". That would be great, right? You´d just have to bet on the first repeater to profit at least one unit guaranteed.
The truth in Roulette, though is: "in 37 spins, several numbers will be repeaters, and at least one may hit a third time, or may not". That´s conditional probability, and everytime you see a "condition" you are, let´s say, forced to hedge your bets on all the "several repeaters", because "one may hit thrice, or not" and you simply don´t know which. Either that, or you think it´s too many bets and decide to bet on less numbers, so you could make a decent profit, but you have no real idea on which numbers to bet and on which numbers to avoid. In other words you´ll be making a random selection. Random decisions, huh? In that case, then isn´t it pertinent to ask why take all the trouble with the hot numbers theory and all the tracking, in the first place?.

This usual line of thought fails - it's gamblers fallacy.

[psimoes]

Yeah that closes the case. At the end of the day GF is pretty much all we got 
I´ve yet a few more points to make regarding hot numbers in general, but ´ll leave it for now.

[psimoes]

Heck just to leave no stone unturned.

Regarding my previous statement:

5. Imagine that one time a player assigned to bet on say #1 was extremely lucky and #1 hit 37 spins in a row! He or she was playing the hotest repeater in History and didn´t stop. Well Done! How much were the winnings, then? Answer: 1334 units. Or 1369-37. This should be proof enough that repeaters or hot numbers have no edge over the House.

Someone might ask: That punter kept betting on a repeater and brought home a truckload of units! How can it not be proof that betting on hot numbers works?

Well, what are the chances of YOU or anybody else being that lucky? The answer is: 1/37.
Exactly the same chances of ANY number, be it "hot" or "cold", hitting in 37 spins...

That´s all.

[Madi]

5. Imagine that one time a player assigned to bet on say #1 was extremely lucky and #1 hit 37 spins in a row! He or she was playing the hotest repeater in History and didn´t stop. Well Done! How much were the winnings, then? Answer: 1334 units. Or 1369-37. This should be proof enough that repeaters or hot numbers have no edge over the House.

What if 37 people assigned to bet 37 different number. In case of such extreme event as u described. When the number repeat for the first time everyone started to betting on that till the end. What would b the calculation.

[psimoes]

What if 37 people assigned to bet 37 different number. In case of such extreme event as u described. When the number repeat for the first time everyone started to betting on that till the end. What would b the calculation.

Good thinking If #1 hit 37 times in 37 spins, player would receive 36*37=1332 units. The remaining 36players would lose 2 units each, 2*36=72, in the first two spins, Then, everyone would break the rules and jump onto the winning number LOL. That would make 36 players times 36 units won times 35 spins. 36*36*35=44064.

The casino employees would cover the table with a black blanket long before that

[Scarface]

How often do repeaters hit back to back?  A $10 wager can turn into $12,960 with just 2 back to back wins if you parlayed your winnings.  Wonder how well the parlay bet would work with this

[psimoes]

I have to say I tried the Absolute Probability example on RX. Just for fun. Begin tracking 37 spins, as soon as a number repeats bet 1 unit until a win, within the remaining spins. A negative progression of 1 2 3 4 5 etc until a new high. In 700 or so spins it reached level 3 for two or three times. Too short of a sample, but for fun playing it´s not a bad result,

[psimoes]

How often do repeaters hit back to back?  A $10 wager can turn into $12,960 with just 2 back to back wins if you parlayed your winnings.  Wonder how well the parlay bet would work with this

You mean a number hitting three times in a row? The odds are 1370 to 1, a bit higher than 1296 units.

[Steve]

It's really simple. The whole foundation of Turbos system is repeaters have a higher chance of spinning sometime soon. The argument is rubbish and easily refuted. No odds change = negative expectation with or without progression. Case closed.

If you want to waste more time, you can pull apart his other arguments too as I and others already have. Parx is clearly rigged, and even if RS's spins are acceptable, the limits clearly are not hence the many big winners. This whole turbo thing is a dead end.