Latest discussion on repeaters(GF)

[Steve]

Madi,

1. Yes the math is rigid. When does 1+1 maybe = 3?

2. It isnt my math. I didnt design it.

3. To start, repeaters dont at all change the odds. Dont argue. Just test lots and see. So if you are still at 1 in 37, why choose a repeater? Theres no benefit.

[Roulettebeater]

Steve
You right, repeaters don't change odds in the Long term, but most players nowadays are seeking short term profit and don't give a damn to long term systems.

In that Case, repeaters can be profitable if played shortly.

Anyway, I was talking yerstetday to a friend who has PHD in software engineering and he told me that he is making good money on RNG, he didn't tell me exactly how is doing so, but I believe he is cracking the random number generator by finding out the seed of the generator


What do you think, do you think something like that is possible ?

[Steve]

yes it is possible to expoit flaws in rng. Everyone would do much better if efforts were focused on that. Relatively simple software can check for rng flaws.

regarding short term winnings, what if 100 players played short term? The end combined result is no different to long term play. So which players win or lose? Nobody knows. Its random.

Short term play doesnt help long term winnings. Its like playing just 1 spin a day for 100 days. Its no different to 100 players making 1 bet each in 1 day.

[Roulettebeater]

yes it is possible to expoit flaws in rng. Everyone would do much better if efforts were focused on that. Relatively simple software can check for rng flaws.

regarding short term winnings, what if 100 players played short term? The end combined result is no different to long term play. So which players win or lose? Nobody knows. Its random.

Short term play doesnt help long term winnings. Its like playing just 1 spin a day for 100 days. Its no different to 100 players making 1 bet each in 1 day.

RNG flaws? i never heard.
what is that and on what is it based?

[Madi]

Madi,



3. To start, repeaters dont at all change the odds. Dont argue. Just test lots and see. So if you are still at 1 in 37, why choose a repeater? Theres no benefit.

I am not in a argument that it does change odd. It does not. I m not asking about odd. My question is if 1/37 is a rigid math then what is a repeater ? Its no longer a 1/37. What is ur explanation.

[psimoes]

This has been discussed before. It started with the last post on page three, which is spot-on. The keyword is "soon".
We must not confuse one number having appeared n  times in the last 37 spins with the 1/37 chances that same or any other number have of hitting inn the next spin. Different planes, that don´t have any influence on each other.Untl this isn´t grasped it´s a walk around in circles that never ends...

[psimoes]

I´m going to illustrate what I wrote in my second and third last posts soon.

[psimoes]

37 spins. notice the green dot line. the mean. notice the numbers that hit two times are above, the one timers are at the same level as the line and the sleepers are below the line.



111spins. notice how some repeaters are still hitting below average.



296 spins after session started. draw your own conclusions.

If you keep betting just the numbers that hit (past tense) abovee average, you will lose due to the unfair payouts.

however, this is the monitoring of a session that started only 296 ago.

[psimoes]

You know, betting the ones that hit on average also seems to work for a finite number of spins.
And betting on all the ones that hit below the mean ALSO seems to work. fuck it

[Steve]

RNG flaws? i never heard.
what is that and on what is it based?

There are many tests that can be done. The simplest is to check for bias. Another is check for frequency of numbers after specific numbers. Again it's a long list of tests.

My question is if 1/37 is a rigid math then what is a repeater ? Its no longer a 1/37. What is ur explanation.

Each number is 1 in 37, including "repeaters". For a back-to-back repeater to happen, the odds are 1 in 37^2 = 1,369 and keep in mind there are 37 pockets, so back to back repeaters are not uncommon. Plus you can often get something like 32,4,5,32. Really its just basic probability. Repeaters are just the gambler's imagination. Another player's imagination is a sleeping number. It's all part of typical gambler's fallacy explained many times before. Like I said, basic knowledge of statistics will make a big difference here.

The keyword is "soon".
We must not confuse one number having appeared n  times in the last 37 spins with the 1/37 chances that same or any other number have of hitting inn the next spin. Different planes, that don´t have any influence on each other.Untl this isn´t grasped it´s a walk around in circles that never ends...

The concept of "soon" is well-tested too. Repeaters, cold numbers etc all have the same odds/expectation as any other number.

psimoes, If you start with numbers that recently hit more frequently (repeaters/hot numbers), and bet on them, you'll win no more or less often than if you bet randomly.

The whole thing about repeaters and hot numbers is so old. Casinos will freely give you that data because they know inexperienced players will think they see patterns and trends where there are none. The casino games are designed to fool you and take advantage of human nature to find order where there is none.

To be correct, there is always order. But understanding and predicting it is not so simple. And it is just not possible to do with hot numbers and repeaters.

You know, betting the ones that hit on average also seems to work for a finite number of spins. And betting on all the ones that hit below the mean ALSO seems to work. f*** it

Actually neither works. The win rate is still 1 in 37, whether you look at just the next spins, or any spins that happen "soon". And that's my point.

Years and years of going in circles on forums. Nothing is learned. And the concept is really simple.

[Steve]

Also the page link:://:.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy/ has more detail. And I suggest people take the forum quiz.

None of the information is something you can debate. You just need to properly test, and the truth is self evident. And again, its all really, really old news.

[psimoes]

Steve, very eloquent as usual. Cheers.

Roulettebeater, RNG is explained here link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=SxP30euw3-0 at around  3:00 . But it´s worth watching that video from beginning to end. It´s very informative.

[Roulettebeater]

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46k every two spins


unbelievable!

[Roulettebeater]

how on earth can he do that?

this is the 10th winning bet with >40k

[Roulettebeater]