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Started by daveylibra, Apr 01, 06:18 PM 2018

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nottophammer

ok how does Generals bias wheel fair over a million spins, who cares, ask your self do casinos leave there wheels on the same table, answer no, after a gentleman took a casino to the cleaners, how by being an engineer he knew wheels had a bias, end of the day they now move wheels, seen at Luton hub being moved to differnt position, end of bias wheels.

End of the General
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

ZERO

Quote from: daveylibra on Apr 05, 08:05 AM 2018
21.01% is just a result after a few spins. It's not an edge.
I've tested it with 111 spins (3*37) , then repeated 100 times.
It's way in the negative.

But what if I only need a few spins for my result in a session and only a few spins for my next result in the next session etc... and without saying I have an edge I just get good results?...

nottophammer

RB
carry on with your 1000's of spins, will you play for 1000's of spins in one day at B+M you'd be lucky to get 800 to 1000 in 8 hrs
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Roulettebeater

Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 05, 08:20 AM 2018
RB
carry on with your 1000's of spins, will you play for 1000's of spins in one day at B+M you'd be lucky to get 800 to 1000 in 8 hrs

Ok sir, try to look at it from the other corner.

I am also not interested in playing 1000 spins but as a matter of principle, the more your sample of data is wider, the more you become sure how your systems performs in the long term.

You system may succeed one day over 60 spins, you gonna probably afterwards take earlier assumption/conclusion and later the system falls on its knee !
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

jekhb76

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 05, 08:26 AM 2018
Ok sir, try to look at it from the other corner.

I am also not interested in playing 1000 spins but as a matter of principle, the more your sample of data is wider, the more you become sure how your systems performs in the long term.

You system may succeed one day over 60 spins, you gonna probably afterwards take earlier assumption/conclusion and later the system falls on its knee !
When you All gonna learn? :yawn:
It's not about long term results!
Why? Because they don't matter.
I don't need to know what my System does over 10.000 spins! Why, because each session is Independent from every other session i play. They Have nothing to do wich eachother . I only want to know what my System Will do after 10.000 spins, only when i am playing a session of 10.000 spins! Well that ain't gonna happen. Most spins i play are between 100 and 200 per session, but Most of the Time lesser then that. So please stop with that every session needs to be tested for so many spins, I DOnN't need the awnser!

Steve

Jek read my recent post about long term testing. Youre making classic mistakes
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Joe

Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 05, 08:44 AM 2018Most spins i play are between 100 and 200 per session, but Most of the Time lesser then that. So please stop with that every session needs to be tested for so many spins, I DOnN't need the awnser!

So if someone plays a system and wins after 100 or 200 bets, can we conclude that it's a winning system?  ;D

Seriously, your argument is so illogical I wonder whether you should be allowed out on your own (no offense intended).

And I think TurboGenius won't tell us the rules of his system because he fears that then someone will code it and show it to be a loser.
Logic. It's always in the way.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: CoderJoe on Apr 05, 09:03 AM 2018
So if someone plays a system and wins after 100 or 200 bets, can we conclude that it's a winning system?  ;D

Seriously, your argument is so illogical I wonder whether you should be allowed out on your own (no offense intended).

And I think TurboGenius won't tell us the rules of his system because he fears that then someone will code it and show it to be a loser.

Why are you here exactly?

So far all you have done is criticize people

Counter productive for a forum

Have anything of value to share?

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

ZERO

Quote from: CoderJoe on Apr 05, 09:03 AM 2018
So if someone plays a system and wins after 100 or 200 bets, can we conclude that it's a winning system?  ;D

Seriously, your argument is so illogical I wonder whether you should be allowed out on your own (no offense intended).

And I think TurboGenius won't tell us the rules of his system because he fears that then someone will code it and show it to be a loser.

If someones plays a system and wins after 100 or 200 bets and does the same for a million different sessions I will conclude that it`s a good enough system to make some decent money...  :thumbsup:

Joe

Logic. It's always in the way.

RouletteGhost

Any and all methods will lose long term due to the house edge


What system players do is play in a unique way with a set of rules to hit a target and quit

No matter what you test long term it will fail. It is called the house edge and unfair payout

That’s why the true time wasters are the ones testing millions of spins. Like coderjoe. It’s a waste of time.

That’s why some of us bet against patterns at times we know it is likely we will win but must stop before he house edge catches up

It’s called playing for a statistically irrelevant number of spins
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

ZERO

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 05, 09:44 AM 2018
Any and all methods will lose long term due to the house edge


What system players do is play in a unique way with a set of rules to hit a target and quit

No matter what you test long term it will fail. It is called the house edge and unfair payout

That’s why the true time wasters are the ones testing millions of spins. Like coderjoe. It’s a waste of time.

That’s why some of us bet against patterns at times we know it is likely we will win but must stop before he house edge catches up

It’s called playing for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

WELL SAID!!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

jekhb76

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 05, 09:44 AM 2018
Any and all methods will lose long term due to the house edge


What system players do is play in a unique way with a set of rules to hit a target and quit

No matter what you test long term it will fail. It is called the house edge and unfair payout

That’s why the true time wasters are the ones testing millions of spins. Like coderjoe. It’s a waste of time.

That’s why some of us bet against patterns at times we know it is likely we will win but must stop before he house edge catches up

It’s called playing for a statistically irrelevant number of spins
I couldn't said it better myself   :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Roulettebeater

No, not all systems lose but most.

systems that exploit the wheel inperfections as well as physics are definitely winners
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Joe

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 05, 09:44 AM 2018That’s why some of us bet against patterns at times we know it is likely we will win but must stop before he house edge catches up

All patterns have the same probability so you are equally likely to win when betting against any of them. And the house edge doesn't "catch up" because it's there on every bet.
Logic. It's always in the way.

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