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PATTERN ATTACK®

Started by Andre Chass, Apr 07, 03:24 PM 2018

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cht

Quote from: andrebac on Apr 13, 06:13 AM 2018
thank you, I already worked on this stuff.
it's pretty easy, apart the last section, since attack number 41.
here I need 10/20 more attacks as the progs tested are not closed at this point.
you will notice that on these attacks you never got it at the first attempt.
I wait for more  data, when availables.
A
Hi andrebac

In 4 days of daily(14hrs) data from the b&m casino with 100+ tables, the result is as follows -

W1 - 48
W2 - 18
W3 - 11
W4 - 4
L4 - 1

There were 2 L4 which has the formation I posted earlier. The data from history shoes showed more losses than wins. The wins and losses which is net negative as expected are excluded from the above figures.

Ricky

Quote from: cht on Apr 13, 01:05 AM 2018
I want to share one particular formation that has resulted in loss more of the time that I ignore the signal.

P B P B P B P B P
P            P     P


When there are equal or more than 3 singles(BPB) after the intial PP stack with no tie in the entire sequence. Be careful with this formation.
Hi cht
If this seems to consistently lose for you then I would suggest waiting longer for the 3rd repeat and maybe the start of the 4th repeat before starting to bet
I personally have not been caught by this setup

Cheers
Ricky

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Apr 13, 01:05 AM 2018
I want to share one particular formation that has resulted in loss more of the time that I ignore the signal.

P B P B P B P B P
P            P     P


When there are equal or more than 3 singles(BPB) after the intial PP stack with no tie in the entire sequence. Be careful with this formation.

Thanks for the advice, CHT

But I never had any problem with this formation.

I'll be watching it.


Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Apr 13, 09:45 AM 2018

To get 2 losses to appear simultaneously has to be extremely rare.

Posting rare losses pics will benefit more  because we might learn if there are certain formations that are more inclined to lose.

You right

And  get 2 losses on the SAME shoe is extremely rare.

Each shoe has its own limitation.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Apr 13, 10:17 AM 2018
Hi andrebac

In 4 days of daily(14hrs) data from the b&m casino with 100+ tables, the result is as follows -

W1 - 48
W2 - 18
W3 - 11
W4 - 4
L4 - 1

There were 2 L4 which has the formation I posted earlier. The data from history shoes showed more losses than wins. The wins and losses which is net negative as expected are excluded from the above figures.

I didn't understand...

Are you saying that the strategy provide more losses than wins?

The early post you said the strategy is a winner.

You have to decide what do you think about it...lol

You've been changing your mind all the time...lol
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

cht

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 13, 12:39 PM 2018
Hi cht
If this seems to consistently lose for you then I would suggest waiting longer for the 3rd repeat and maybe the start of the 4th repeat before starting to bet
I personally have not been caught by this setup

Cheers
Ricky
I flat bet 4steps 1/1/1/1 risking 4 units. Starting at 4th repeat can be an option.

There are 2 variations to note when playing baccarat -

1. Normal commission baccarat where a 5% commission is deducted from the payout for banker win bets,

2. No-commission baccarat where the win for banker bet on the sum of exactly six has a payout of 50%. This is commonly known as super 6 baccarat that may or may not offer additional exotic bets.

The rules of the 2games is slightly different specifically related to whether to draw the 3rd card.

3. The burn card rule - this means at the start of every hand the 1st card is discarded(burn) before the hand is dealt.

Most casinos practice the no burn card rule giving a total of 70+ hands per 8 decks shoe. Some casinos apply the burn card rule giving a total of 60+ hands.

These differences in rules will affect the Pattern Attack result slightly. If I am not wrong the super 6 baccarat with burn card rule gives the best result.

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 13, 06:14 PM 2018
I didn't understand...

Are you saying that the strategy provide more losses than wins?

The early post you said the strategy is a winner.

You have to decide what do you think about it...lol

You've been changing your mind all the time...lol
From the win/loss stats I posted shows Pattern Attack is a clear winner. I have always been consistent about it.

With a flat bet of 1/1/1/1 our team of regulars won in excess of $50k with each member pocketing $10+k playing Pattern Attack plus 2 other exotic patterns with Pattern Attack contributing a fifth of the profits. It was hard and tiring work though that requires rest before we start again this Monday.

andrebac

Quote from: cht on Apr 13, 10:17 AM 2018
Hi andrebac

In 4 days of daily(14hrs) data from the b&m casino with 100+ tables, the result is as follows -

W1 - 48
W2 - 18
W3 - 11
W4 - 4
L4 - 1

There were 2 L4 which has the formation I posted earlier. The data from history shoes showed more losses than wins. The wins and losses which is net negative as expected are excluded from the above figures.

your %s are similar to Ricky ones...
good!
when I will got more data I will share a good prog for this one!
A

Ricky

Quote from: andrebac on Apr 14, 12:43 AM 201848
Hi
Quote from: cht on Apr 13, 11:09 PM 2018
I flat bet 4steps 1/1/1/1 risking 4 units. Starting at 4th repeat can be an option.

There are 2 variations to note when playing baccarat -

1. Normal commission baccarat where a 5% commission is deducted from the payout for banker win bets,

2. No-commission baccarat where the win for banker bet on the sum of exactly six has a payout of 50%. This is commonly known as super 6 baccarat that may or may not offer additional exotic bets.

The rules of the 2games is slightly different specifically related to whether to draw the 3rd card.

3. The burn card rule - this means at the start of every hand the 1st card is discarded(burn) before the hand is dealt.

Most casinos practice the no burn card rule giving a total of 70+ hands per 8 decks shoe. Some casinos apply the burn card rule giving a total of 60+ hands.

These differences in rules will affect the Pattern Attack result slightly. If I am not wrong the super 6 baccarat with burn card rule gives the best result.
Hi cht,
from your results are you saying you are flatbetting 1/1/1/1 and coming out ahead? How do you record a Tie result? if this hits on 2-4 hand and you stop then this would add to losses of your previous flatbets
Assuming no tie in the result i can see that flat betting is a winner and avoids large risk for any 4 step losses wiping out previous long winning streak.

PS. just played another 2 games as soon as I jumped online today. Now 49-2 is record with 446 euro profit. still winning on 1st and 2nd steps

Went to B&M casino last night and not 1 8 hand trigger was formed. so all night I bet 5 euro base bets on the formation of 4-6 hands. Won another 80 euro in 4 hours. not bad with a 120 euro bankroll.

Cheers,
Ricky

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cht

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 14, 03:00 AM 2018
Hi Hi cht,
from your results are you saying you are flatbetting 1/1/1/1 and coming out ahead?

Yes, flat betting will win net +25 units. Our group won +16 units.

How do you record a Tie result?

We do not stop on a tie when betting.

if this hits on 2-4 hand and you stop then this would add to losses of your previous flatbets
Assuming no tie in the result i can see that flat betting is a winner and avoids large risk for any 4 step losses wiping out previous long winning streak.

Our bankroll is 12 units. We won 133% returns in 4 days.

The casino has an in-house rule of requiring the players id for wins above usd$2000 per hand. We had to limit our individual bets to stay below that limit.


PS. just played another 2 games as soon as I jumped online today. Now 49-2 is record with 446 euro profit. still winning on 1st and 2nd steps

Went to B&M casino last night and not 1 8 hand trigger was formed. so all night I bet 5 euro base bets on the formation of 4-6 hands. Won another 80 euro in 4 hours. not bad with a 120 euro bankroll.

Cheers,
Ricky

Ricky

Quote from: cht on Apr 14, 04:09 AM 2018

Hi cht
I like your method  and it will work with this system as wins outweigh losses 44-1 with most wins coming in the 1st to 2nd steps
An option you could deploy to ensure you remain in profit when you lose 3 to 4 steps is to use a small progression to make up the loss. Say you win on step 3 you are down 1 unit. After several step 3 wins you will be down 3 or more units
You could then play one game with a 1-1.5-3-5 progression or even 1-2-2 progression until you recoup losses. But this would be determined by how much profit you have already accumulated. The point is to keep a positive growth of your bankroll without risking loss of profit

Cheers
Ricky

cht

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 14, 04:40 AM 2018
Hi cht
I like your method  and it will work with this system as wins outweigh losses 44-1 with most wins coming in the 1st to 2nd steps
An option you could deploy to ensure you remain in profit when you lose 3 to 4 steps is to use a small progression to make up the loss. Say you win on step 3 you are down 1 unit. After several step 3 wins you will be down 3 or more units
You could then play one game with a 1-1.5-3-5 progression or even 1-2-2 progression until you recoup losses. But this would be determined by how much profit you have already accumulated. The point is to keep a positive growth of your bankroll without risking loss of profit

Cheers
Ricky
Exactly, when you have a winning system play it consistently to grow your initial bankroll.

This way you will eventually collect house chips to play with zero risk, it becomes risk free gambling.

Our team played with house chips collected over time to win 600% playing PA and 2 other exotic patterns over 4 days. Tbh, this is the better outing others 200 - 300% returns is the norm. Sometimes lingering in 50% drawdown most of the day before recovery, it can be frustrating - you have to be prepared for bad days.

It took us a lot of research plus hard work to grind the results out.

cht

Strange that Andre Chass Pattern Attack® do not receive the accolade of a wiining system.

Congrats Andre for your winning Pattern Attack®. Thank you for sharing it with us. :thumbsup:

Whereas the earlier JL Pattern Breaker received multiple times attention even when simulation test proved it's not a winning system.

I can't find another system that wins on flat bet - Post the link below if anyone has.

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