PATTERN ATTACK®

[maestro]

so now you can go and wack the casino and make milions...

[wiggy]

Hello guys, I like to look at different things and test them and Baccarat is a challenge for me. I looked at this using my Baccarat simulator which shuffles and deals real cards. (no RNG.....after all, that stuff is rigged!  )

So first 100 shoes using 8 decks and the BPP BPP BP combo came out only 23 times in 100 shoes.
Shoe 88 was a bit of a so and so!! From hand 38, it went BPP BPP BPP BPP BPP BB

It's only my first look, so I will look into it more.

cheers

[Ricky]

Strange that Andre Chass Pattern Attack® do not receive the accolade of a wiining system.

Congrats Andre for your winning Pattern Attack®. Thank you for sharing it with us.

Whereas the earlier JL Pattern Breaker received multiple times attention even when simulation test proved it's not a winning system.

I can't find another system that wins on flat bet - Post the link below if anyone has.

Hi cht
Let’s compare pattern attack with pattern breaker played on baccarat. As a baseline we have stated this before. Baccarat is the most even casino game you can play. The original version has no zero to lose e/c bets. In fact you get your money back on a tie. Ps watch out for a variant being introduced in some casinos called baccarat 2-1 where you actually lose your banker/player bets on a tie in exchange for higher returns on player/banker

Secondly. Random is set at the start of the shoe and every hand is predetermined at that point.

Thirdly, if you use a card tracking software you can determine what cards are remaining and eventually you get to a point where certain card combinations are eliminated. So if you have no combination to get to 9 for instance then you can use this information to determine your bets. It’s sort of like card counting in blackjack.

Now, let’s compare PA and PB.
Pattern breaker allows you to bet more often as the 7 patterns usually close within 2/3 of a shoe. It then becomes a factor of luck/chance whether the 8th will follow the 7th. So we need to determine if the random shuffle of a shoe is going to provide the same performance as a roulette wheel which generates a random selection every spin. Now the current version of PB has improved the original concept by using all three E/C bets to determine which one would close first allowing a random choice of betting against the 8th pattern

With pattern attack we are limiting our betting to a fixed pattern. Therefore we eliminate the risk of losing against other patterns. Due to this fact I think this is the main reason why PA performs so well. It avoids you betting whenever the pattern has not formed thus avoiding getting into a losing position. It also inherently enforces patience and discipline in your gambling.

This approach can be used on the original PB played on roulette as well as baccarat. If we were to limit the patterns we would bet against to 2 our of the 8 then we can use the same approach tracking the 7 patterns to close and then only bet against the 8th if it was one of these patterns. This would add an extra condition on the PB rules and reduce the betting opportunities to fewer shoes or spins. It may generate the same win rate also.

Any thoughts and comments welcome

Cheers
Ricky

[Andre Chass]

Strange that Andre Chass Pattern Attack® do not receive the accolade of a wiining system.

Congrats Andre for your winning Pattern Attack®. Thank you for sharing it with us.

Whereas the earlier JL Pattern Breaker received multiple times attention even when simulation test proved it's not a winning system.

I can't find another system that wins on flat bet - Post the link below if anyone has.

Hey man, you don't have to thank me. We did it together. You and Ricky have been helping a lot.

I keep increasing my bankroll and at the same time doing more tests.

[Andre Chass]

Hello guys, I like to look at different things and test them and Baccarat is a challenge for me. I looked at this using my Baccarat simulator which shuffles and deals real cards. (no RNG.....after all, that stuff is rigged!  )

So first 100 shoes using 8 decks and the BPP BPP BP combo came out only 23 times in 100 shoes.
Shoe 88 was a bit of a so and so!! From hand 38, it went BPP BPP BPP BPP BPP BB

It's only my first look, so I will look into it more.

cheers

Hello wiggy

Thanks for the help and for provide us the simulations.

You're using the Baccarat Buster 2.

Where can I download the software?

I'd like to do more simulations.

[jsintl]

I flat bet 4steps 1/1/1/1 risking 4 units. Starting at 4th repeat can be an option.

There are 2 variations to note when playing baccarat -

1. Normal commission baccarat where a 5% commission is deducted from the payout for banker win bets,

2. No-commission baccarat where the win for banker bet on the sum of exactly six has a payout of 50%. This is commonly known as super 6 baccarat that may or may not offer additional exotic bets.

The rules of the 2games is slightly different specifically related to whether to draw the 3rd card.

3. The burn card rule - this means at the start of every hand the 1st card is discarded(burn) before the hand is dealt.

Most casinos practice the no burn card rule giving a total of 70+ hands per 8 decks shoe. Some casinos apply the burn card rule giving a total of 60+ hands.

These differences in rules will affect the Pattern Attack result slightly. If I am not wrong the super 6 baccarat with burn card rule gives the best result.

Hello!

Do you flat bet for 4 times (max) for every attack?

I don't think you apply recovery at all.  Isn't it?

Do you have a Stop Win or Stop Loss per casino visit?

Thanks a lot.

[cht]

Hello!

Do you flat bet for 4 times (max) for every attack?

Yes, flat bet 4times max stop on win.

I don't think you apply recovery at all.  Isn't it?

Yes, I don't apply recovery at all.

Do you have a Stop Win or Stop Loss per casino visit?

My daily buy-in bankroll is 12units. I play continuously for as long as possible with breaks in between. My stop loss is my bankroll.

Thanks a lot.

[Andre Chass]

I need a software that shows me the average of losses and wins using the strategy. But I cant find any Baccarat simulator.

All I know until now is that the strategy wins more than loses.

[wiggy]

@andre, you can get the BaccaratBuster2 software at the myupperhand website. It's around $100 if you use the discount coupon.
For a quick test of Ricky's strategy just to get an idea of it, it's great because you aren't manually having to run through the shoes. You can run a 100 shoes in 5-10 minutes and then have a lot of analysis tools at your disposal to crunch through things. Going on what I have seen so far, you will get an average of a bet every 4 shoes for each pattern. I will have some time over the next few days to look into it all a bit deeper and will post up my findings.

cheers

[jsintl]

Thanks.

Andre is using 3 steps MM.  Is there any reason why you are using 4 steps (all flatbet)?
Is it your personal choice only or based on your testing.

[Ricky]

I need a software that shows me the average of losses and wins using the strategy. But I cant find any Baccarat simulator.

All I know until now is that the strategy wins more than loses.

Hi Andre
This may make a good project for me to code a baccarat simulator and provide simulation of frequency of different patterns
If no one else has done this I will give it a go
Cheers
Ricky

[Ricky]

@andre, you can get the BaccaratBuster2 software at the myupperhand website. It's around $100 if you use the discount coupon.
For a quick test of Ricky's strategy just to get an idea of it, it's great because you aren't manually having to run through the shoes. You can run a 100 shoes in 5-10 minutes and then have a lot of analysis tools at your disposal to crunch through things. Going on what I have seen so far, you will get an average of a bet every 4 shoes for each pattern. I will have some time over the next few days to look into it all a bit deeper and will post up my findings.

cheers

Thanks wiggy. This may save me the time to code. I’ll look into it

[wiggy]

No problem mate! You can see in the picture that they have a feature called 'logic recognition'. You can input a sequence such as BPP BPP BP and then type in what you would like to bet over the next few hands in a 'what if' scenario....so you could input the bet sequence BPB after the BPP BPP BP and then run as many shoes as you like using different progressions etc.. It's quick and uses a real shuffle, so it pretty much copies what you could expect in a real B+M environment as close as you are going to get.

cheers

[cht]

Thanks.

Andre is using 3 steps MM.  Is there any reason why you are using 4 steps (all flatbet)?
Is it your personal choice only or based on your testing.

Based on test result with data from local b&m casino.

[Andre Chass]

@wiggy thank you for the help!

As we already know, through the simulations you've done we get the triggers BPP BPP BP or PBB PBB PB four shoes in avarage.

Can you simulate the avarage of wins and losses we get using these triggers?
(Using 3 steps progression 1, 2, 4)

Ex:
BPP BPP BP bet BPB
PBB PBB PB bet PBP

I'll appreciate it

Cheers