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When The Player Has The Edge Progression Quiz

Started by The General, Apr 11, 09:15 PM 2018

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The General

A fun test question.  Let's pretend that one of the systems/methods/strategies on the board has an edge

The player has a 6% edge, and plans on playing off and on over a period of several days for a total of 10k spins.   (I don't care about or want to know how the edge is obtained, and who's method it is.  This is not a debate about whether a system works or not.)

  The player's starting bankroll is $1,000.  Which player will likely win the most money, and receive the most attention in the form of sex and love from his/her spouse or friend.  Player 1,2, or 3?


1. The player flat bets $50 every spin on the top numbers.

2. The player bets 1% of his bankroll distributed over his best numbers?  (His initial bet is only $10 in total.)

3. A player that runs an aggressive up as you lose betting progression 5,10,20,40,80,100,200?

Number one, two, or three?



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maestro

Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Bigbroben

I'd also say nr.2 for the money.

For sex, none of the above: they all are math geeks, i.e. no sex appeal, or swag, whatsoever.
Life is hard, and then you die.
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Steve

There are a few assumptions, but probably TWO because 1% of the bankroll after time is higher than $50. So winnings get compounded.

#1 is the default



#2 is safest considering the math, although sustained play can get you detected, same as #1. And time is a big factor - to make the most in the least time possible, and while being covert. So such an approach is often not best depending on surveillance. But still overall #2 is best

#3 could do best. It more depends on which spins they won on. If the 6% edge was achieved with progression (although thats not a real edge), then they would have been very tense with some of those bets because what could be a big win could very easily be an even bigger loss. If the edge is not including the progression, then #3 might do best - it still depends on which spins they won.

Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 11, 09:42 PM 2018For sex, none of the above: they all are math geeks, i.e. no sex appeal, or swag, whatsoever.

James Bond got more than any of us and he used a crap system.
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Bigbroben

Quote from: Steve on Apr 11, 09:48 PM 2018
James Bond got more than any of us and he used a crap system.

Yeah, he was a Sharp Dressed Man, that's why.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: Steve on Apr 11, 09:48 PM 2018
There are a few assumptions, but probably TWO because 1% of the bankroll after time is higher than $50. So winnings get compounded.

#1 is the default



#2 is safest considering the math, although sustained play can get you detected, same as #1. And time is a big factor - to make the most in the least time possible, and while being covert. So such an approach is often not best depending on surveillance. But still overall #2 is best

#3 could do best. It more depends on which spins they won on. If the 6% edge was achieved with progression (although thats not a real edge), then they would have been very tense with some of those bets because what could be a big win could very easily be an even bigger loss. If the edge is not including the progression, then #3 might do best - it still depends on which spins they won.

James Bond got more than any of us and he used a crap system.

I fully agree with Steve that 3 is the best
The only condition is that you should be really really sure that you have a positive edge ... then go for it and start printing money
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Steve

I wouldnt personally go for #3 with a 6% edge. Its too small for aggressive progression. Overall #2 is best in this case.
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Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
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Roulettebeater

Quote from: Steve on Apr 12, 06:40 AM 2018
I wouldnt personally go for #3 with a 6% edge. Its too small for aggressive progression. Overall #2 is best in this case.

How do you measure the edge in correspondence with the number of played spins ?
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

psimoes

[Math+1] beats a Math game

Roulettebeater

Quote from: psimoes on Apr 12, 07:00 AM 2018
Nr2 higher stakes as bankroll grows

What do you mean?  I don't get the point

Thx
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

maestro

QuoteI wouldnt personally go for #3 with a 6% edge. Its too small for aggressive progression. Overall #2 is best in this case.

having edge does not mean you got crystal ball.. :xd: :xd: :xd:


QuoteNr2 higher stakes as bankroll grows


What do you mean?  I don't get the point


player won a milion from casino should know.. :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

psimoes

With a positibe edge the more you play the more you win. As the bankroll grows, the initial bet may turn from 10 to 15, 30 or whatever. So higher stakes bring higher profit. Keeping it at 1% of lifetime bankroll assures a steady safety margin.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Roulettebeater

Quote from: maestro on Apr 12, 08:10 AM 2018
having edge does not mean you got crystal ball.. :xd: :xd: :xd:



player won a milion from casino should know.. :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:

I am bit bored and wanna enjoy typing -:)

And I find the ideas from "the general" as well as the photos he keeps uploading  very good SEXYYYYY
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Roulettebeater

Quote from: psimoes on Apr 12, 08:14 AM 2018
With a positibe edge the more you play the more you win. As the bankroll grows, the initial bet may turn from 10 to 15, 30 or whatever. So higher stakes bring higher profit. Keeping it at 1% of lifetime bankroll assures a steady safety margin.

According to you, positive edge can be verified only by checking profitability from flatbetting in a determined time interval ...

Right ?

How do you measure your edge if you using progression ?
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

psimoes

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 12, 08:37 AM 2018
According to you, positive edge can be verified only by checking profitability from flatbetting in a determined time interval ...

Right ?

How do you measure your edge if you using progression ?

Thats not what im saying. Youve got to have a 'verified' positive  edge in the first place.
Hoe to get it and verify it, thats a good question. Waiting for the generals answer though i dont think it the main point of this thread. Lets see.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

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