My friend has opened a new Baccarat.

[cht]

No, we pay them no mind, why because we are never going to bet on them.

TIES DONT EXIST.

I have his full Baccarat Bible and he never advised anybody to play tie at all.


Stuart



link:://:.ecliftondavis.rocks/

If you have the pdf version, can you post it pls ?

[bikemotorman]

Shuffle Machine Video and man its fast wow.

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=txl3gqIfwHM

[bikemotorman]

If you have the pdf version, can you post it pls ?

No sorry, I have an agreement that I would share in such a manner.

It is copyrighted material.

Stuart

[bikemotorman]

What I was saying was that I would not share the copyrighted material in such a manner as I have agreed with Ellis not to share in such fashion.

It is all copyrighted.

Sorry about that.

Stuart

[Thanatos]

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TIES DONT EXIST.
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Hehe, yes. Id never suggest anyone playing on the ties or say the pro bacc players got it wrong. The house edge on the Tie is giant too. Everyone saying "you cant" however got me to try of cause. First idea turned out to work ok thou not recommended. A bit "pattern breaker"-ish .. aka waiting for the expected procentage to break from the pattern. Or to to say it short .. Tie's should % happen every 10-ish hand roughly (depending if its 8.1 or 9:1 and all that). However a Tie happening Exactly every 8-10 hands is a fairly uncommon event & Tie's tend to happen overall more randomly thus resulting in clustered Ties and long break of no ties of cause.

So tried betting 1 unit flat 5 times after each Tie .. and 6 shoes later had 21 units. This dosnt prove anything. Also its disturbingly boring sitting thru the sometimes giant gaps on no ties at all. And i have no illusions about if i get hit by multiple shoes with little to no ties .. itll go downhill. So betting on tie isnt impossible, just not wise in any way.

[DoctorSudoku]

Hehe, yes. Id never suggest anyone playing on the ties or say the pro bacc players got it wrong. The house edge on the Tie is giant too. Everyone saying "you cant" however got me to try of cause. First idea turned out to work ok thou not recommended. A bit "pattern breaker"-ish .. aka waiting for the expected procentage to break from the pattern. Or to to say it short .. Tie's should % happen every 10-ish hand roughly (depending if its 8.1 or 9:1 and all that).

However a Tie happening Exactly every 8-10 hands is a fairly uncommon event & Tie's tend to happen overall more randomly thus resulting in clustered Ties and long break of no ties of cause.

So tried betting 1 unit flat 5 times after each Tie .. and 6 shoes later had 21 units. This dosnt prove anything. Also its disturbingly boring sitting thru the sometimes giant gaps on no ties at all. And i have no illusions about if i get hit by multiple shoes with little to no ties .. itll go downhill. So betting on tie isnt impossible, just not wise in any way.

Yes, I agree that ties don't happen every 8-10 hands as per the theoretical expected frequency rates for that outcome.

On a few rare occasions, I have actually gone after the tie bet if I have NOT seen it for 20 spins.

And then I have chased it for the next 16  spins (after the first 8 spins, with a mild progression).

Surprisingly, I have won on every occasion.

I am just mentioning it.

I do NOT recommend the above strategy to be used regularly at the baccarat table.

[RouletteGhost]

I have observed over 40 shoes on bet phoenix the past 2 weeks

One could say it has been "tie city"

every shoe has ties

[bikemotorman]

This is a net betting craps test on my home craps practice table with me tossing the dice random in other words no Dice Setting and just chucking them down the table.

The results are quite good, take a look guys what do you think???

P stands for Pass and D stands for don't pass.

[bikemotorman]

This is the Ellis reply to Net Bet for Craps.

Well, I don't know a thing about Craps and I don't want to know. Bac and BJ is more than enough for one brain to absorb. But I do know a LOT about Systems and betting strategies.



So, I played it Net Bet AD which mean Across, Down. Your progression switches sides after a 3 and keeps switching until the run ends. This did EXTREMELY well for only 48 plays. And it got through the two 3s W/O much trouble. AD3 or switching after 3 makes 3s the culprit. But U1D2 betting plowed right through the 3s with a highest bet of 5 and scored +18 in only 48 plays. I started at play 2 which I recommend for AD.

But then, looking at it from a Baccarat perspective, and also starting at play 2 for an accurate comparison. I played it S40, selecting Mode using the O/R count. It scored +22 with a highest bet of 4. Much better!

But guys, let's get practical. This is only a based on a little more than half a shoe. Both S40 and AD were tested over thousands of shoes. A half a shoe doesn't prove anything.

EXCEPT it proves one thing - you can get runs in Craps.

Therefore you MUST have a way to contend with runs.  Both S40 and AD DO have a way to beat runs while keeping your bets relatively low. I've watched Craps players bet ridiculous progressions against runs. You would need thousands of dollars to bet those Martingales. Such play is totally insane. Runs Happen both in Bac and Craps.

I played S40 under the optional rule - Once ON a run, stay on the run until you lose. We do that when we have seen long runs at that casino. I would recommend that for Craps.

So OK, Net Betting did very well. But S40 did better. If I was forced to play Craps, from what I've seen so far, I would go with S40. Keep it simple but Effective! Contend with runs while keeping your bets as low as possible. In fact, EXPLOIT runs !

[bikemotorman]

This is a net betting craps test on my home craps practice table with me tossing the dice random in other words no Dice Setting and just chucking them down the table.

The results are quite good, take a look guys what do you think???

P stands for Pass and D stands for don't pass.

Ok, Ellis played my craps results and here is the verdict.

link:://content.invisioncic.com/v281409/monthly_2018_04/633762011_CrapsThePlow.jpeg.2af3ffc778b113d2d4455d5095330f50.jpeg

Wow is all I can say?


Stuart

[Blueprint]

Ok, Ellis played my craps results and here is the verdict.

link:://content.invisioncic.com/v281409/monthly_2018_04/633762011_CrapsThePlow.jpeg.2af3ffc778b113d2d4455d5095330f50.jpeg

Wow is all I can say?


Stuart

What’s the bet?

[DoctorSudoku]

Ok, Ellis played my craps results and here is the verdict.

link:://content.invisioncic.com/v281409/monthly_2018_04/633762011_CrapsThePlow.jpeg.2af3ffc778b113d2d4455d5095330f50.jpeg

Wow is all I can say?


Stuart

There is nothing wow-ing about it.

Ellis is exhibiting what the best progression is AFTER the results are known.

If he were playing this particular craps game LIVE one decision at a time, would he have selected the U1D2B2 progression method then ?

Therein lies the problem.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

[bikemotorman]

Doc he would have played it the same way, he has a large bankroll and treats it as a business.
Since it was on craps it would have taken most likely four hours, Ellis also plays black chip level, he really knows what he is doing, he has been at it almost 40 years I am pretty sure he has seen it all.

I have also had him on the phone while I played on Betphoenix and it was just shocking how correct he was on how to play...................HE IS JUST THAT GOOD, MY HAT IS OFF TO HIM.

Stuart

[bikemotorman]

Doc some people are the real DEAL some are not it is up to you.

I know Ellis is the real DEAL that's good enough for me.

Stuart

[bikemotorman]

ANCIENT PROVERB, go with the flow not against it, REALLY I mean it??


Stuart