My friend has opened a new Baccarat.

[DoctorSudoku]

I think you are on the wrong thread guys??

I think we have the pricing down pat now by leaving it up to the members. Ha, that was a first! You'd think that they would all say "teach us for free". But, in fact, Nobody said that. Together we came up with 14.95 / mo for the Beginner Forum. Then 24.95 for the Advances Forum.            Then 49. 95 for all inclusive members who want to go to Webinars and Seminars for free. Then we came up with an annual option for members who want to save a little by paying up front. All of that is fine with me. I only had ONE concern - that we end up the lowest cost gaming training site on the entire internet. And at the pricing we ended up with - we ARE. This way, each of you becomes an Ambassador for ECD I'm going for HIGH membership in place of high pricing. Pretty smart, don't you think? Well, we'll see. It is a risk but I think a good one. Sorta like betting OTB4L in a high 2s shoe. We can't go wrong - especially when we've got Ambassadors like Vegas-Rick and Sir Donald, and the 3 Johns  and a whole bunch more. This is like a home coming to me - all my friends finally have a place to roost. Thanks guys!

Stuart,
Just curious ....... is his training materials available to his program subscribers as paper manuals and/or electronic (pdf) files?

[bikemotorman]

All electronic docs PDF and other file types.


Stuart

Oh do you have any more craps rolls?

[bikemotorman]

This was posted on the Ellis forum, take a look if you like.

All I can say is nobody plays BACCARAT on this forum like the way Ellis Davis does, if you are making 500 dollars a day doing what you are doing great keep doing it,,,,,,,,,,,,,HOWEVER if you are open to be teachable and accountable to make 500 dollars a day then take a look below.



First, thank you to everyone for your patience, we are in the process of getting everything together for the premium memberships.

Ellis and I spoke and he is no longer going to be selling his thousand dollar manual, he is actually going to be giving away the manual to all monthly premium members.

We will have 3 different membership levels, we will have a beginner's forum that will be priced at $14.95 a month,
there will be an advanced player's forum that will be priced at $24.95 a month which will also include the beginner's forum and
there will also an all-inclusive membership that includes an all-access pass to everything on the site.
This all-access pass will include live webinars as well as archived webinars and all recorded training videos. Plus as a special bonus, you will be invited to our online casino game forum the first on the internet all for only $49.95 a month.

You will be able to stay as little or as long as you'd like on the forum because we will never charge to access the free open baccarat forum.

We are committed to making this the number 1 online forum for learning and profiting from the casinos on a daily basis.

Whether you are looking to just add a few extra dollars or replace a full-time income, whatever your personal goals are we are here to help you achieve those goals.

This is your forum and to have this level of access to Ellis is absolutely HUGE because he is literally the best person in the world to learn from in order to generate a consistent income from the casino's, which is why we are all here.

You are going to be blown away and what you will learn and I know I am excited to get going and I know Ellis is as well.

So we will be able to start taking payments starting Tuesday, May 1st and as a special bonus for everyone that signs up the first week and as a way of saying thank you for your patience while we were getting the forum setup, we will be doing a special FREE meet and greet webinar to give you a chance to
talk to Ellis and get a feel for what you are in store for moving forward.

[ZERO]

This was posted on the Ellis forum, take a look if you like.

All I can say is nobody plays BACCARAT on this forum like the way Ellis Davis does, if you are making 500 dollars a day doing what you are doing great keep doing it,,,,,,,,,,,,,HOWEVER if you are open to be teachable and accountable to make 500 dollars a day then take a look below.



First, thank you to everyone for your patience, we are in the process of getting everything together for the premium memberships.

Ellis and I spoke and he is no longer going to be selling his thousand dollar manual, he is actually going to be giving away the manual to all monthly premium members.

We will have 3 different membership levels, we will have a beginner's forum that will be priced at $14.95 a month,
there will be an advanced player's forum that will be priced at $24.95 a month which will also include the beginner's forum and
there will also an all-inclusive membership that includes an all-access pass to everything on the site.
This all-access pass will include live webinars as well as archived webinars and all recorded training videos. Plus as a special bonus, you will be invited to our online casino game forum the first on the internet all for only $49.95 a month.

You will be able to stay as little or as long as you'd like on the forum because we will never charge to access the free open baccarat forum.

We are committed to making this the number 1 online forum for learning and profiting from the casinos on a daily basis.

Whether you are looking to just add a few extra dollars or replace a full-time income, whatever your personal goals are we are here to help you achieve those goals.

This is your forum and to have this level of access to Ellis is absolutely HUGE because he is literally the best person in the world to learn from in order to generate a consistent income from the casino's, which is why we are all here.

You are going to be blown away and what you will learn and I know I am excited to get going and I know Ellis is as well.

So we will be able to start taking payments starting Tuesday, May 1st and as a special bonus for everyone that signs up the first week and as a way of saying thank you for your patience while we were getting the forum setup, we will be doing a special FREE meet and greet webinar to give you a chance to
talk to Ellis and get a feel for what you are in store for moving forward.

COOL! So when you get the "Thousand Dollar Manual" as part of your membership you can share it for FREE with all of us on this forum! 

[bikemotorman]

NO CAN DO ITS ALL COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL BOSS.

I dont think Steve would appriciate people giving his stuff away either.

[ZERO]

NO CAN DO ITS ALL COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL BOSS.

I dont think Steve would appriciate people giving his stuff away either.

Yeah but Steve doesn`t charge for his forum or his secrets... 

[bikemotorman]

However he does sell his roulette computers.

By charging a fee it does keep the Riff Raff to some extent at bay.

[ZERO]

However he does sell his roulette computers.

By charging a fee it does keep the Riff Raff to some extent at bay.

Not a Riff Raff, just Very Sceptic.

So keep us updated with your results...

[bikemotorman]

I understand.

[The General]

Ellis is one of the top 10 Baccarat players in the US.

Is your friend, Ellis, a "sort" player, or is he counting down the side bets?

What kind of bac ap is he?

[bikemotorman]

He is the kind of player who wins 57 percent of the hands he plays.

He only plays PLAYER OR BANKER AND ONCE HE STARTS HE PLAYS EVERY SINGLE HAND.

THE SIDE BETs ARE NOT GOOD BETS AND are SUCKER BETS.

Stuart

[DoctorSudoku]

He is the kind of player who wins 57 percent of the hands he plays.

He only plays PLAYER OR BANKER AND ONCE HE STARTS HE PLAYS EVERY SINGLE HAND.

THE SIDE BETs ARE NOT GOOD BETS AND are SUCKER BETS.

Stuart

I agree -- the dragon and panda side bets (along with the less common banker pair and player pair side bets) that you find
in US casinos are sucker bets.

But the high payouts associated with these bets lure suckers in all the time without fail.

[DoctorSudoku]

He is the kind of player who wins 57 percent of the hands he plays.

He only plays PLAYER OR BANKER AND ONCE HE STARTS HE PLAYS EVERY SINGLE HAND.

THE SIDE BETs ARE NOT GOOD BETS AND are SUCKER BETS.

Stuart

If he is indeed winning 57% of the hands that he bets on, then why do some of his systems use negative progressions?

With a 57% win rate, you can be in positive territory consistently with just flat bets (this will be true even with the 5% commission that you have to pay on winning banker bets).

[bikemotorman]

Doc first things first he needed to make more money because he was playing full time he told me flat betting would net him about five units but with the up one down two progression he averaged about 12 units per shoe.

The table minimum in the late 80s was 100 dollars.

He uses an up one, down two progression.

Ellis played full time for many years but health problems took him out of the casinos.

Again Doc some people are really really very very good at things, Ellis is a VIRTUOSO at baccarat.

His health issues prevent him from going to the casinos like he used to plus he is a diabetic.

Its up to you, believe or dont believe but he really is very good at baccarat.

NOBODY plays like him on this forum and I mean NOBODY?

Stuart

[bikemotorman]

Doc I sent you a PM with Ellis phone number he said he would be glad to speak to you and is awaiting your your call and questions.


Stuart