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“Biased” wheel players may win due to luck. Non existent, sort of like vampires

Started by RouletteGhost, Apr 15, 08:29 PM 2018

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The General

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

RouletteGhost

Which?

Resorts is cool. Not far from Long Island. They swap the wheels every now and then

Jakes 58 is newer and Long Island first casino. Too new for bias
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

The General

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

RouletteGhost

That’s a new one

Exploiting a bias in airball wheels

That’s all we have here

:xd:
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Steve

Sure RG you can challenge his claims. Just take a step back and understand we have limits to behavior here, which apply to everyone. He is behaving himself and so should you.

If that changes, anyone can report any post, and all mods including myself can decide if anything is over the line.
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Steve

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 16, 10:40 PM 2018#2 - even in the rare circumstance you found a biased wheel, you still need a large capital. The fight isn’t worth it

Remember what happens with a -2.7% edge. And remember card counters can make millions from a 2% edge.
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cht

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 16, 10:40 PM 2018
#2 - even in the rare circumstance you found a biased wheel, you still need a large capital

The fight isn’t worth it
The variance is 400+ units depending on the edge.---------DSAA

The General

Actually the variance can much worse than that if your edge is small.  That's just the way it is for any method, system, strategy.  The larger the edge, the smaller the draw downs.  The smaller the edge, the larger the draw downs.

   If you don't have an edge, then the draw downs are essentially bottomless because the house edge combines with variance.  I know that seems horrific, but that's just how the math works out.  That's why it's important to bet a percentage of your bankroll rather than using an up as you lose progression.  Such a progression theoretically enables you to subdivide your bets endlessly if needed (or at least down to limit) and shoot for the chandeliers the longer you play.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

cht

Quote from: The General on Apr 17, 12:39 AM 2018
Actually the variance can much worse than that if your edge is small.  But that's the way it is for any method.  The larger the edge, the smaller the draw downs.  The smaller the edge, the larger the draw downs.  And if you don't have an edge, then the draw downs are essentially bottomless because the house edge combines with variance.  I know that seems horrific, but that's just how the math works out.
I agree. I made reference to that 400+ variance so that readers get a better understanding of the dimensions of AP. Not many people properly understand and appreciate dd.

cht

Quote from: Steve on Apr 17, 12:21 AM 2018
Remember what happens with a -2.7% edge. And remember card counters can make millions from a 2% edge.
Out of curiosity, if your rc gives a 90+% edge why then your ex-customer bago has problems with your product ?

Not trying to stir shit but something is not right ? :question:

Steve

It's all explained at link:s://:.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com/bago-tony-duhamel/

Basically he wasn't following instructions, then refused my support claiming he didn't speak english well enough for a call, said he was right anyway and that was the end of it. Bago is an absolute freak with serious problems. Everyone in my player forum hated him. He fought with everyone who attempted to correct his misunderstandings.

To be more specific with his mistakes, he probably set the polynomial order to an incorrect value which made predictions unstable. He refused to let me help him so I couldn't find out exactly. Before he requested a refund, he said he wasn't going to use it in casinos because he was concerned about legalities anyway. I think partly he really had no idea what he was doing, and partly he just wanted to justify a refund because of his legal concerns.

Ultimately the computers are just a tool, not magic. If the user is a moron, the computer wont help them.

So was Tony the problem, or does my computer really give random predictions like he says? Considering my public demos, the public challenge with him, and the free trial, you'd have to lack a brain if you can't figure out the answer.
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cht

Lets read bago's response if he does on gf.

Bago, if you are reading this, give us the specifics to why you failed to make money with the rc tool that gives such a high edge.

Steve

Do you really expect him to give you an accurate answer?

Check everything on my sites. Even check the result of my public challenge with him. Do you really believe him in saying the predictions were random when he repeated the same spin on dvd?

All he gives is muddled bullshit and excuses.

You will never, never get "Sorry, I was wrong. I made a mistake." from him.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Steve

And if after checking all the public demo videos, public test results with Tony live, you still dont get it.... then try the free computer I provide. If you still think the predictions are random, god help you.

Understand in the end I cornered Tony. He had nowhere left to go. And his last words were claiming he still had another computer which was much better and mine was a scam. I knew he was lying because I have that computer, so I asked him to do another live challenge to prove he was full of shit. The challenge would allow both devices to use the same click input, then we'd compare prediction accuracy. He refused. See below:

The Truth: After a public challenge, Tony’s false claims were clearly debunked and the results are all at link:://:.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com/results-of-my-challenge-to-bago/. Tony then released an edited recording and lied about the results, so I released the unedited version which embarrassed him further. Then he had nowhere left to go, so first he suggested another challenge (which my player successfully completed for me). Secondly, he tried to dismiss the test results by saying he has another computer that performed much better anyway. I have the computer he mentioned (Forester’s FFA) and knew his claim was false, so I asked him to witness a live webcam test of both my computer and this other computer connected to the same clocking cable and predicting the same spins. Then we could compare results. He REFUSED.

Bago’s version (his exact words): “Steve is now furious about losing the challenge, he showed his rubbish product in front of everybody, so he asked me to repeat the demonstration once again trying to show this time an effective product. But it is too late, my point has been proven, he is a scammer”
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Steve

You have to understand, when someone like Tony is cornered and everyone can see his lies and mistakes, he has nowhere left to go. But that doesn't stop him from spewing more bullshit. Have you ever tried to have a logical discussion with someone who isn't actually interested in the truth? It gets nowhere.

For him, being right and not looking stupid was far, far more important than accuracy and honesty.

And for a long time, his trail of bullshit and lies went around in circles. Even when he was flattened in public demos, he still kept going because he looked like an idiot. He did that to himself. I only defended myself and explained the truth, with public demos among other things.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

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