“Biased” wheel players may win due to luck. Non existent, sort of like vampires

[Turner]

does the UK even have tv series? or is everything american? lol

I download torrents. They arnt on UK TV

[psimoes]

Tought I was the only one who got it when Turbo said he made millions by selling air freshners at the carwash. :-)

[Roulettebeater]

I download torrents. They arnt on UK TV

Torrent ? Isn't it blocked in UK?

[psimoes]

Tried once to watch the american version of The Office. Has nothing to do with the original.
I've heard there was an american version of Coupling. Didn't watch because of that.
Sorry for the OT

[Turner]

Just found this on a website. Interesting

From early in the 1800’s, some roulette players looked for a specific type of wheel; one that wasn’t working perfectly, a wheel that was off; a wheel where certain numbers were coming up with a frequency that defied randomness. These numbers were considered “biased” as was the wheel. So for many roulette players the biased-wheel hunt became almost an obsession.

My wife  and I played one biased wheel in the early 1990’s at the Rio casino in Las Vegas. It was an unbelievable thrill. The same three adjacent numbers kept hitting with unusual regularity throughout the day â€" from early morning to early evening before the casino shut the wheel down. Strangely enough, although we were winning consistently, the other players just played as they always played totally unaware of what kind of wheel they were playing.

How about now? Are there biased wheels around the casino world? Doubtful and you certainly won’t find them at major casinos. Still if you love to play roulette and you see some numbers coming up a lot, you have nothing more to lose if you bet them. You might be playing a random game but you would be doing that anyway.

[Roulettebeater]

Ah tuner

Don't believe this bullshit, read the story of the Garcia family in Spain and how they made millions from biased wheels

One fact is that casino nowadays are more careful and they have software to detect biases, in other words players are being screwed again and again

[Steve]

RB, what is your experience? I mean personal experience.

Or is it speculation, and what you think?

[Roulettebeater]

RB, what is your experience? I mean personal experience.

Or is it speculation, and what you think?

Steve
I am not in a position to defend Tuner in what he has published, biased wheel existed in the past and enabled some smart guys to become millionaires, these stories took place around the 1990 years where casino lacked monitoring softwares to keep track of the spins, the problem actually is not to find a biased wheel, the problem is rather how long can a biased wheel stay in production ?

Casinos today using advanced software to detect anomalies and they will get informed in a matter of seconds.

My personal experience is to never invest time in searching biased wheels because it's not worth.

You'd agree or disagree with me but one fact remains that casino milk the fools and the smart milk the casino, so in other words if you win $100 from a table where luck7red has just lost $100 because he bet 7 red, then. You have earned that money from his pocket and he can sue you if he wants

[RouletteGhost]

Wheel bias is becoming more and more BS everyday

That’s why snowman ( and others ) message forum members to track wheels for them

Seeing a “bias” in a few thousand spins could just be a coincidence or variance

Perhaps these bias players have been winning on hot numbers all along 

[cht]

Bias wheel contribute some, visual ballistic contribute some.

For bias wheel the variance is large and the player has to play a large spin population for the edge to kick in the same like the casinos HE.

VB plays the current spins with edge for every spin. The edge can be large in ideal condition.

VB comes with knowledge and skill.

For skilled VB players, they can obtain edge even with difficult wheels. The wheels are not necessary to be bias but better if it's consistent.

If you can play with edge with ALL these online wheels then you are a good skilled VB player.

For b&m casino, there is the practical aspect depending on nmb , how to place your bets and how to camouflage your bets.

Between bias wheel and VB, better to learn VB for beginners.

When you have solid VB knowledge and skill then you know bias wheel is difficult, comparatively not worth the effort.

[Roulettebeater]

Bias wheel contribute some, visual ballistic contribute some.

For bias wheel the variance is large and the player has to play a large spin population the same like the casinos HE.

VB plays the current spins with edge for every spin. The edge can be large in ideal condition.

VB comes with knowledge and skill.

For skilled VB players, they can obtain edge even with difficult wheels. The wheels are not necessary to be bias but better if it's consistent.

If you can play with edge with ALL these online wheels then you are a good skilled VB player.

For b&m casino, there is the practical aspect depending on nmb and how to camouflage your bets.

Between bias wheel and VB, better to learn VB.

When you have solid VB knowledge and skill then you know bias wheel is difficult, comparatively not worth the effort.

Cht
As usual your reply rocks !
Which casino is that you showed in the picture ?

[cht]

Cht
As usual your reply rocks !
Which casino is that you showed in the picture ?

The list is Dublinbet with a lot of live dealer wheels.

[Roulettebeater]

Wheel bias is becoming more and more BS everyday

That’s why snowman ( and others ) message forum members to track wheels for them

Seeing a “bias” in a few thousand spins could just be a coincidence or variance

Perhaps these bias players have been winning on hot numbers all along 

RG
Stop believing in your hot numbers fallacy, it's all an illusion which has been adverstised too much on Steve's forum by turbo and his fans for free and for the sake of devastating collapse of the players

Wake up!

Btw, why you didn't take my advice seriously and changed your avatar into a real lion instead of this small rat with big balls

[Steve]

Everyone has an opinion. Very few have personal experience.

Modern bias analysis software used by casinos is very inadequate. But considering time and effort, bias analysis a waste of time compared to other methods. A broad network of scouts may make it more viable.

Still its definitely viable. I access a lot of data and see likely bias often. But mostly we ignore it and pursue other approaches.

[cht]

About VB, there's a lot of complicated stuff posted online most of which are useless and misleading.

They use a lot of technical jargons that sound impressive but their effectiveness is next to useless - this is the truth.

When you understand the real "physics" of the wheel and ball you know that a lot of the stuff is useless, unnecessary and inaccurate.

Although many of those posted online looks logical, scientific and impressive.

So the novice use their logical mind to think they must be true.

If those rubbish stuff work, there will be a lot of successful VB players but that's not the case.
Just google to find them.

When you truly mastered VB you realise that roulette is not a random game. The result is dependent on the key physical attributes of each individual spin. That's the game of roulette that's not random.

True VB masters are able to demonstrate their skill for real in front of your eyes in a b&m casino. They are very few and you won't know who they are.