“Biased” wheel players may win due to luck. Non existent, sort of like vampires

[The General]

I don't care if you have it or you don't, you should never talk about the others that bad, you are not better... a dealer steering you don't know, fancy that !

Again, what is "dealer steering?"

[Roulettebeater]

Again, what is "dealer steering?"

Anyone could please explain dealer steering to the general, I have no mood to discuss anything with him ?

Thx

[The General]

RouletteBeater,

It's probably a term that's more familiar to your native language rather than English.  If you can, please try to explain it in a few words.

[Roulettebeater]

RouletteBeater,

It's probably a term that's more familiar to your native language rather than English.  If you can, please try to explain it in a few words.

I start to doubt that you are native English speaker !

Dealer steering is well known term, almost all professional players should know it

If you don't believe me, ask Steve, tuner or any professional player here

[Roulettebeater]

General.,

here something for you

link:://:.blackjackforumonline.com/content/debate-on-roulette-sector-shooting.htm

[The General]

General.,

here something for you

link:://:.blackjackforumonline.com/content/debate-on-roulette-sector-shooting.htm

Roulettebeater,

What are you thoughts on the subject?

[Roulettebeater]

General,

Roulette systems are like books, there are new ones you want to read and old ones you want to reread and make money with.

Winning is a choice, not a result. Nothing will make you win until you choose to be winner.

Nougat is a tricky business to chew and maybe Nutella would have been easier gulping down; but Roulette is Nutty Nougat! 

[Turner]

Nougat is a tricky business to chew and maybe Nutella would have been easier gulping down; but Roulette is Nutty Nougat!

[Roulettebeater]

[The General]

Roulettebeater-Winning is a choice, not a result. Nothing will make you win until you choose to be winner.

Roulettebeater,

How do you figure?  Does that work on a double zero wheel?  How about a triple zero wheel?  Can you choose to be a winner on a triple zero wheel and actually be one in the long run? 

Does such power and choice making apply to growing old too? Can you choose to never grow old and die?

You brought up what you called "dealer steering," so what's your thoughts on it?  Do you believe it's myth, real?

[Roulettebeater]

Roulettebeater,

How do you figure?  Does that work on a double zero wheel?  How about a triple zero wheel?  Can you choose to be a winner on a triple zero wheel and actually be one in the long run? 

Does such power and choice making apply to growing old too? Can you choose to never grow old and die?

You brought up what you called "dealer steering," so what's your thoughts on it?  Do you believe it's myth, real?

Ok, you capsuled multiple questions in one reply, let's take them one by one.
First of all, from a pure mathematical point of view the zero is a guarantee/positive edge for the casino against the average player, you can see it like that : "payout is not fair, a sort of cheating!"

But my style of play deactivates this mathematical model, because i am advantage player, in other words i target the wheel not the layout, for me it makes no difference if the wheel has one, two or even three zero!


Dealer steering is not myth, it exists!
you want the evidence? easy, go and find a table with a lazy dealer and check the result.

[The General]

But my style of play deactivates this mathematical model, because i am advantage player, in other words i target the wheel not the layout, for me it makes no difference if the wheel has one, two or even three zero!

Interesting.  What type of AP player are you?  Can you elaborate?

Dealer steering is not myth, it exists!
you want the evidence? easy, go and find a table with a lazy dealer and check the result.

Actually I'm very familiar with it, as I own wheels of my own. 
Just curious, you do know that it's the wheel conditions that make it possible, and that it doesn't require any super hero dealer skills, right?

[Roulettebeater]

Actually I'm very familiar with it, as I own wheels of my own. 

I think you are not serious enough!
you wasting my time !

you've said previously that you don't know what is "dealer steering" and now you say that you are very familar with it!

Go away!

You have to be banned! and i am sure "tuner" will do, he just put you on his watchlist

[The General]

I think you are not serious enough!
you wasting my time !

you've said previously that you don't know what is "dealer steering" and now you say that you are very familar with it! 

No, I merely wasn't familiar with what it was that you were trying to say.  The thread was on biased wheels, and you threw in some off hand remark about "dealer steering."

Roulettebeater-Dealer's steering at its best

I merely didn't understand your jargon, that's all.  It's just the language (jargon) barrier.  If you had said "dealer sector shooting" and perhaps articulated what it was that you were attempting to convey just a little better then I wouldn't have asked the question.

You have to be banned! and i am sure "tuner" will do, he just put you on his watchlist

Why? 

Roulettebeater-But my style of play deactivates this mathematical model, because i am advantage player, in other words i target the wheel not the layout, for me it makes no difference if the wheel has one, two or even three zero!

Now, earlier you mentioned that you were an AP.  Can you elaborate on that further?  What exactly is your style of play?

[Steve]

Where on earth still computers legal ?

In around half of jurisdictions. When new profit-split players join my team, it's a requirement that they do legal research for where they intend to play. So I have details of legalities in most jurisdictions. I also paid my own lawyer to do research but she wasted time and money researching jurisdictions I already knew about.

Didn't you hear drsudoku when he said that all casino in the U.S are not tolerating even a small telephone held in the hands of players near their wheels !

Every casino forbids using phones at the table. They ask you to step back.

1. Using a phone is not illegal.

2. Using a roulette computer is legal in about half of casinos.

3. Using a roulette computer is never "allowed" by the casinos. But "not allowed" and "illegal" are very different things.

4. The computers are never visible when being used.

If those rubbish stuff work, there will be a lot of successful VB players but that's not the case. Just google to find them.

VB players are actually quite common. It is not at all difficult to do well with VB. It just takes suitable conditions and a solid technique. Google doesn't hold all the truth. It's just a reflection of people's understanding. That's why half of the internet is a load of shit.

When you truly mastered VB you realise that roulette is not a random game.

You dont need to master it to know its not random. It's quite clearly not random with some basic observations.

True VB masters are able to demonstrate their skill for real in front of your eyes in a b&m casino.

Most wouldn't be interested in wasting their time. Some would be interesting in sharing some knowledge, but would generally keep the best parts to themselves.

Frank Scoblete is more a craps guy. He's not too knowledgeable about roulette.

Like the doctor says they dont let you have techno at the table, know it as i had clipboard and not opened and as floor manager walked by stopped in his tracks and ask what you got there, a clipboard mate, ok, walked off, if been a laptop what would have been said

Yeah the casinos don't like to lose. I probably have more legal research about computers than anyone. They are legal in about half of casinos. Still if you are detected playing where legal, they just apply countermeasures. But its not hard to avoid detection in the first place.

Everyone needs to understand the difference between illegal and forbidden. A private establishment can make whatever rules they want.

If Dad told me way back, then its obvious bias wheels are watched and corrected back in the day a simple move around would f*** up the generals of the day.

Your dad was no roulette expert. Quite often I see likely bias in data i check. But we ignore it usually in favor of other approaches.

You need to understand it's nearly impossible for a wheel to not be biased to some degree. Wheels are manufactured devices and still have defects. And they degrade and bias becomes more apparent.

But casinos analyze their wheels for bias, right? Actually their software is largely inadequate. It doesnt have the capability to listen for sounds and make visual observations, so an attentive bias player can easily detect and exploit a bias before the casino has any idea.

Are "sufficiently biased" wheels common? No. But this attack against biased wheels, and vb, is actually an attack against Caleb.

I don't particularly care for bias analysis, or vb. But they are valid methods including in today's casinos.

For bias, you realistically need a network of scouts. For vb, suitable conditions are much more common but you still need to scout around a bit.

Yes for sanctions against the general, that what the morons here are calling for

When you all stop attacking him personally, and he's attacking people personally without provocation, he will be moderated. For now, he is being attacked personally and comparatively he is not biting back. I dont care what he's like at other forums. This is a different forum with different rules.

I am actually a very modest guy

Same. I fucking rock.

Regarding Caleb, everyone needs to consider their own behavior towards him before complaining.

Regarding dealer "steering", first get information from someone who has actual spun a wheel before. Even better, owns one, or a few. It's explained in detail at link:s://:.roulettephysics.com/can-roulette-dealers-make-you-lose/ - basically its possible in strict conditions. If I knew a specific rotor and ball speed produced a specific winning area, I could target that on the right wheel. To hit or avoid a sector, I could adjust the rotor release point. Definitely its possible but takes the right conditions.