If it does work flat betting

[Winner]

If it doesn't work flat betting it won't work  .
No shit  I wish people would stop say this crap it's gambling .
And games are made for you to progress on your bets or you won't win. And if you have a bet that wins flat bet let's have  but I doubt it .
How many times are people going to say this .it just as bad as trying to do the same thing over and over and expecting different results .

[Roulettebeater]

let me tell you a couple of words, you don't need a system that wins ALWAYS flatbetting in order to make profits.
it's enough if you have a system that tends to win flatbetting regularly.

[Winner]

let me tell you a couple of words, you don't need a system that wins ALWAYS flatbetting in order to make profits.
it's enough if you have a system that tends to win flatbetting regularly.
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And the system is?

[Roulettebeater]

let me tell you a couple of words, you don't need a system that wins ALWAYS flatbetting in order to make profits.
it's enough if you have a system that tends to win flatbetting regularly.
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And the system is?

The system either you find it by yourself, or you copy&paste it from someone else... if nothing worked, you still have a choice: buy a professional system.

[Bigbroben]

If it doesn't work flat betting it won't work  .
No shit  I wish people would stop say this crap it's gambling .
And games are made for you to progress on your bets or you won't win. And if you have a bet that wins flat bet let's have  but I doubt it .
How many times are people going to say this .it just as bad as trying to do the same thing over and over and expecting different results .

Do you suggest a positive prog, up as you win, or negative, up as you lose?  For sure, neg progs are powerful (Martingale a good example, W/L ratio of 1:8 and still win).  Pos prog are safer...

Which one did you mean?

[The General]

If a method/strategy/system work flat betting, then you of course only want to use an up as you win progression based on betting a percentage of your bankroll.  There's absolutely no comparing an up as you lose verses and up as you win. The up as you win will inevitably win thousands of times more than the up as you lose.  Plus the initial bets can be much higher, enabling you to win more from the start. 

[Bigbroben]

Ok, the Question here:
If a system does not win flat, could it work with positive prog?

[The General]

Ok, the Question here:
If a system does not win flat, could it work with positive prog?

In the long run, NO.   It's for the same reason that you can't multiply a negative number times a positive one and produce a positive number.

If there's no edge then an up as you lose progression (chasing your losses) is merely borrowing from the future to pay for the current.

[ignatus]

The up as you win will inevitably win thousands of times more than the up as you lose. 

Thank you General. This is the advice i needed!

[Bigbroben]

In the long run, NO.   It's for the same reason that you can't multiply a negative number times a positive one and produce a positive number.

If there's no edge then an up as you lose progression (chasing your losses) is merely borrowing from the future to pay for the current.

I meant: can a slightly losing flat-bet system become a winner using a up-as-you-win, i.e.positive, progression?

[The General]

I meant: can a slightly losing flat-bet system become a winner using a up-as-you-win, i.e.positive, progression?

Ok.. think of it like this.  Slightly losing = (-.001 long term expectation) x (betting amount) =

Now, what betting amount can you place in the equation above to produce a positive number when you do the multiplication?
The answer is NONE.  Unless you can bet a negative amount of money, you can't.

[Bigbroben]

I see,  you're right.
Pretty simple...  basic maths...

[Bigbroben]

How's that for flat betting!

[The General]

It's only 98 spins.  So?

[Madi]

He ll start agian after 98 spin and keep playing another 98 and keep winning untill it become 980000 spin. That will definitely make sense for u