If it does work flat betting

[cht]

How's that for flat betting!

Hey bigbroben, here's mine. 

[Ricky]

It's only 98 spins.  So?

Do you advocate playing every spin/hand/throw of the dice or ONLY when the conditions are right before you can call a system or method the HG?

eg the one I am playing at the moment I have played 70 games in 1 month and 10 days after the trigger indicated the right conditions and I have won 67 lost 2 and tied 1 for a 751 euro profit. Is this still a losing system?

Cheers,
Ricky

[cht]

Can a player win if he plays every spin ?

Yes, if he plays with an edge over the game.
He won't win every game, he wins the games that the edge gives him.

Fact is he has to play every spin for the edge to kick in.

The more he plays the more he wins.
The player does not know if individual spin wins but as a collective total he knows his edge.

Imagine AP plays with edge of 30% ie. winrate of 65%.

The problem is the security surveillance will easily spot such AP in action.

The bigger issue at hand is how to play this 30% edge without getting caught.

Btw I don't play systems.

[Bigbroben]

I guess every good system has its own trigger.  Yes, aiming to enter the game when an unbalance is detected ( trigger) probably helps. 
Different choices: run the unbalance ride; play for a return to normal, hit-and-run.

For sure, using a system no matter what the conditions are loses in the long run.

What's your favorite unbalance?  !

Cont'd from previous game.  Is 508 spins enough?  Was playing last 29 nrs to hit, no trigger, always there.  I am surprised it did not tank more than that.  bet on 29nrs, 8 free ( was actually trying the ''reverse'' Vaddis 8 nrs).  Will not continue to 2000 spins, it'll take forever.
Higher lows but lower highs?!?

[Bigbroben]

Can a player win if he plays every spin ?

Yes, if he plays with an edge over the game.
He won't win every game, he wins the games that the edge gives him.

Fact is he has to play every spin for the edge to kick in.

The more he plays the more he wins.
The player does not know if individual spin wins but as a collective total he knows his edge.

Imagine AP plays with edge of 30% ie. winrate of 65%.

The problem is the security surveillance will easily spot such AP in action.

The bigger issue at hand is how to play this 30% edge without getting caught.

AP, if I understand, is playing with the hidden computer?

That's b&m.

How to get an edge online?

[cht]

AP, if I understand, is playing with the hidden computer?

That's b&m.

How to get an edge online?

AP is short for advantage play.

It simply means the player plays the game with an advantage.

For roulette, it means AP knows which pocket(s) the ball is more likely to land in.

This is the use of the input variables, example speed of wheel and ball etc.

Roulette computers is a tool used to make the math calculations, mostly statistical calculations rather than physics calculations.

This calculations can be done with our brain.

The arguments for rc is in the accuracy of the speeds that result in more exact calculations.

That's not the complete picture.

There are discretionary adjustments that the rc cannot compensate for unless such application for discretion is pre-programmed. There is also the outside the specs conditions that the rc was not programmed to handle that result in nonsensical output.

So to say broadly that rc is the superior way is not accurate.

Besides the illegality issue in most jurisdiction.
And that you will be easily identified as an AP with action from the casino.

[cht]

AP, if I understand, is playing with the hidden computer?

That's b&m.

How to get an edge online?

The same way with b&m casino.

The common limitation is the time from spin to nmb is small or none.

You are well verse with math, you spend a lot of time with system play.

If there is one tip for you(anyone) it's to spend more if not all of your focus and time to learn visual ballistic if you are serious to profit from the game.

[Steve]

You made some assumptions about rcs. Well made computers reject nonsensical input. If they are made well, the only advantage vb has is not needing equipment. But its not that important if the rc wont even be detected with a strip search.

[Bigbroben]

Who needs flat betting when flat betting works?!?

[The General]

Who needs flat betting when flat betting works?!?

Why do you post the betting results of only 97 spins on a graph?  That's so few spins that it's statistically insignificant.

[Bigbroben]

I know!

Simply having fun!

[Bigbroben]

Why do you post the betting results of only 97 spins on a graph?  That's so few spins that it's statistically insignificant.

Ok, I'll continue the game, as soon as the kids are asleep (which is why I had to make it short). 
If I continue and lose, I'll blame it on you! 

[Bigbroben]

No success last forever, but it's not you fault, General...
Flatbetting is tough...
Back to zero at spin 257...

[The General]

I'm not sure what it is that you're testing but...

You haven't tested many spins.  You could have merely encountered some variance.  The variance on a low edge method could easily be 800 to 1200 units.  This is why I keep saying that small sample testing is basically futile/meaningless.  You need to test around 10k to 50k spins at a time.

Best of luck,

-The General

[Bigbroben]

I agree with you.

The only way I see to go to 50k spins is per Excel, and I'm not that good in programming all sorts of conditions, sequences and all that stuff.  I must learn way more about this to be at ease with it.

Nevertheless, I am glad to see that some ways of betting , although flat, can show positive results for a few 10, 100 spins.  Encouraging. 
The tough part, I guess, is to detect the tipping point, where a good tendency becomes exhausted.

Perhabs, like they say, leave the party before it gets too fun, and switch to a new game...

Tell me, did YOU find a way to profit from roulette so far?  Not saying HG, or whatever, just: are you in profit or loss overall since you started?