If it does work flat betting

The General · Apr 22, 10:10 PM 2018

Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 22, 10:07 PM 2018

Tell me, did YOU find a way to profit from roulette so far? Not saying HG, or whatever, just: are you in profit or loss overall since you started?

Yes, I did. It's my job.
It's not a big secret either. I play visual ballistics on some wheels. Wheel bias on others. Sometimes a combination of both.
If people really want to get the edge and win, then they can. The problem is that many of the people on the board are only young kinds interested in playing online, aren't willing to put forth any real effort, or exert themselves mentally. If it doesn't give them immediate gratification, then they're usually not interested in it.

Bigbroben · Apr 22, 10:32 PM 2018

Well I'm pretty much relying on RNG so far, I have no time to go to real casinos ( never did go either).

I guess I compare to someone willing to become a doctor: you gotta be good at medicine school before to be a good doctor.
So I'm running my tests, learning, then when I'm good I'll test fo real...

Lately I've read, and thought over, this flatbet motto.

This forum brings lots of ideas, I like it. Motivating...

The General · Apr 22, 10:42 PM 2018

Regarding RNGs

You're not going to find a traditional system that works.

Do NOT think of the RNG game as being like the real game. They're not. You have to think differently.
Here's the direction in which I'd look if I had to look into RNGs. Here's kind of an example.

Very carefully sync your clocks with the game clock that you're playing.
Generate the spins at precise intervals. (For example every other second.)
Collect several thousand trials
Check chi square
Repeat and change the intervals.

cht · Apr 22, 11:33 PM 2018

Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 22, 10:32 PM 2018
Well I'm pretty much relying on RNG so far, I have no time to go to real casinos ( never did go either).

I guess I compare to someone willing to become a doctor: you gotta be good at medicine school before to be a good doctor.
So I'm running my tests, learning, then when I'm good I'll test fo real...

Lately I've read, and thought over, this flatbet motto.

This forum brings lots of ideas, I like it. Motivating...

You can practise "wheel clocking" with online live dealer wheels.

The best and most important skill to acquire with the roulette game.

The General · Apr 23, 12:07 AM 2018

Quote from: cht on Apr 22, 11:33 PM 2018You can practise "wheel clocking" with online live dealer wheels.

The best and most important skill to acquire with the roulette game.

Unfortunately, not really. The video quality from the online casinos just isn't quite good enough.

A better resource would be to gain access to the high quality Donna Amon spins, and upload them to Avidemux software.

cht · Apr 23, 12:31 AM 2018

I started by watching jafco youtube videos. MrPerfect has a running commentary to explain abit. He has a new thread if anyone is interested.

Practise with online live dealer wheels.

Then the b&m etg live dealer machines.

Last the actual manual tables - 100+ of them.

Never turn back since.

About rc, not necessary really.

With VB there's more than enough.

The General · Apr 23, 01:04 AM 2018

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. Maybe for some kind of primitive dealer's signature, but not real vb.

Mr. Perfect is wrong IF he says that online casinos have a good enough video feed.

cht · Apr 23, 01:14 AM 2018

Not sure why you are so hang up with online live dealer videos.

Everyone knows it's not perfect. BUT it's a place to get started no matter how crude it may be.

You want real stuff then get your arse to a real wheel in b&m casino.

The General · Apr 23, 01:25 AM 2018

The problem with the online wheels is that you can't perceive the ball speeds accurately enough and you can't perceive the change in wheel speeds accurately enough because of the RRS system. You can if you're in the casino looking at it, but not online.

cht · Apr 23, 01:46 AM 2018

Without divulging anything, 60% of online live dealer wheels can beaten with a 30% edge.

The General · Apr 23, 01:53 AM 2018

Says who? For starters the scatter is toO long to yield an edge that high. Secondly the RRS will destroy an online player because they can't perceive the speed change accurately enough. The player would have to see the wheel in person to overcome it. IF he said it, then Mr. Perfect is exaggerating.

Lucky7Red · Apr 23, 01:56 AM 2018

Quote from: The General on Apr 23, 01:25 AM 2018
The problem with the online wheels is that you can't perceive the ball speeds accurately enough and you can't perceive the change in wheel speeds accurately enough because of the RRS system. You can if you're in the casino looking at it, but not online.

VB guys can not beat online wheels

cht · Apr 23, 02:11 AM 2018

If there's any AP/rc who can beat online live dealer wheels, pls indicate below.

It's good to know if there's anyone out there who can.

I like to believe steve rc can, can you confirm ?

The General · Apr 23, 02:14 AM 2018

Quote from: cht on Apr 23, 02:11 AM 2018
If there's any AP/rc who can beat online live dealer wheels, pls indicate below.

It's good to know if there's anyone out there who can.

I like to believe steve rc can, can you confirm ?

I'm right here. AP and professional. At best you'll acquire nothing more than a trivial edge using VB or an RC online.

cht · Apr 23, 02:20 AM 2018

Lets read what steve have to say about this.

Interesting topic to learn about others pov.

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