If it does work flat betting

[Bigbroben]

Game 3:
Hi: 143.  Low: -477.  End: -141

Very rough.  I saw the vulnerability of the play.
Gotta find a counter-balancing strategy when the trend is against it.

Score so far: 2/3.

Hanging on...


Pfffff, prototypes, u know...

[jekhb76]

HOLD ON TO YOUR HORSES! 

I found something last night, that i don't want to keep to myself.
I don't wanna play that game anymore. It's Time we Help eachother.

A. Showed me profit after every spin cycle.
B. Works flatbetting, but a very mild progression gives the best results.
C. Has a minimum of 10 hits
D. Is easy to play.
E. Is easy to understand
F. Bankroll less then 1000 units is needed.
G. Doesn't Have a ending, play as Long as you want.
H. You can Enter the game or stop the game anytime you like.
I. It's repeaters, but in a Different way.
J. Holy Grail ? Only tested 25 cycles of 35 spins yet, but still No loss.
25/25 cycles showed me a new High.
It's true what Turbo said about Random......it has limits, and two pigeons can't fit in a hole unless the hole is been Made bigger!

Rules come later today, i promise!
First i need to play 10 cycles to show you what i Mean and show the chart.
Stay tuned......

[keepontryin]

great news..........you just never stop your like the roulette energy bunny........

[Bigbroben]

Rules come later today, i promise!

Alright...

[ego]

When you look at charts is funny to see things with different knowledge.
Never continue flat betting after two reversals.

Don't have time to explain, but 87% of times you get two or more reversals.
Tested with 60,000 placed bets.

Cheers

[Bigbroben]

... please if you eventually have time, explain!

Seems there indeed is a rythm to roulette behavior (GF?  !!!),  or at least waves, could we say...

Some bunches of 100-200 spins are favorable to a system, them another 100-200 not at all. 

Is this a way to identify trend change: 2 cycle/game/losses in a row?

[ego]

Well, I am flat betting using even money bets, but I am not here to discuss or talk about my method. I just want to let people know that one person has simulate 60.000 placed bets for the even money and 87% of times you get at least two reversals.
This is not spins and real placed bets.

You can see on the last chart above that you get at least two reversal before the results tank.
That always happens.

You are up +3 or +10 units and then lose it all back.
But before that happens you bet into minus and break even at least twice.

Is very rare that a method tank or hit the negative results like a spike that dive at the beginning with no reversals.
So for example, your win goal is +3 units and you don't reach your win target.
Assume you are minus 2 units and then reach back to zero, one reversal and then get +2 units and then back to zero and then +1 unit and then into minus -1 unit and back to zero, second reversal. Now is time to quit and you miss out on the action and should have stopped playing when you were ahead.

This is a great lesson to learn from, you will notice that you win and break even and reach the negative area.
The lesson is that you will recognize what it means to stay ahead and quit when ahead.

Cheers

[SamNL]

Rules come later today, i promise!
First i need to play 10 cycles to show you what i Mean and show the chart.
Stay tuned......

Sounds good to me Ed! 

[Bigbroben]

Well, I am flat betting using even money bets, but I am not here to discuss or talk about my method. I just want to let people know that one person has simulate 60.000 placed bets for the even money and 87% of times you get at least two reversals.
This is not spins and real placed bets.

You can see on the last chart above that you get at least two reversal before the results tank.
That always happens.

You are up +3 or +10 units and then lose it all back.
But before that happens you bet into minus and break even at least twice.

Is very rare that a method tank or hit the negative results like a spike that dive at the beginning with no reversals.
So for example, your win goal is +3 units and you don't reach your win target.
Assume you are minus 2 units and then reach back to zero, one reversal and then get +2 units and then back to zero and then +1 unit and then into minus -1 unit and back to zero, second reversal. Now is time to quit and you miss out on the action and should have stopped playing when you were ahead.

This is a great lesson to learn from, you will notice that you win and break even and reach the negative area.
The lesson is that you will recognize what it means to stay ahead and quit when ahead.

Cheers

I see.  Kind of a technical analysis on your br, instead of roulette outcome?  I guess the br score reflects the roulette outcome-behavior.

Unlike stocks, which can tank on news, would you say roulette's random tendencies move relatively slowly? or can be anticipated?

Graph modified...

[cht]

"Trading" charts with random lines and numbers to mark reversal points is voodoo technical analysis. 

[jekhb76]

Don't Have much Time at the moment to post the full method, because of the kids around me, but it is so simple anyone can do it and it is very efective.

Don't Judge, Just play.

1. Track 35 spins (only 1 Time)
2. Place 1u bets on All 1s.
3. Whenever a number is hit, it will be removed. (You can continue but that is another thing)
4 are betting that all, Most of the numbers turn in to 2s. That Will happen. (Random has limits.)
5. Everytime a spin missed, Just Keep goin' don't raise kust yet, too many numbers.
6. When you Have 10 numbers left and one gets hit and you are in debt, we raise +1 unit on All 10 numbers. Only +1 per hit if nessesary, so not every spin .
7. We continue this until you are in profit again(don't Have to be a new High) then All bets Goes Back to 1 unit again. After 50 cycles of 35 spins, the Most raising was 6 units, before i got to profit again. Along the way, you Will notice that you Have let's say 6 spins left until the End of the cycle and you over 100 units in profit. You then know for sure that you wil End this session i'm profit. You then Have the choose to stop or to continue to the End of the cycle and try to make a few Bucks More, it don't Have to. You Have already wom.
8. Atbthe End of the second cycle at spin 70, younwil notice that not All numbers from the first cycle Have been hit. You Will Keep those numbers on the Table, but now you Will also add All the 1s from the second cycle as well. Sometimes between 15-20 numbers. No problem. Continue the same as the First cycle ...... There was not a single cycle i wasn't in profit at some Point. If this is the case at every cycle or two that you Will Have a profit Point at some spin, then you Will Have a Holy Grail. Because that is All i need.
If i know that every cycle gives me betere 20-100 units profit i could stop and retrack again.

Alot of two's Mean alot of profit.

[jekhb76]

Make this one lose, and i Will never Talk about a HG again 
Not one time profit between spin 35 and  spin 105!
Prove it, that it can lose.
I Mean with graph, not numbers.
I'm prett sure it can't lose.
Even if we use a mild progression.
Try me. 

[ego]

Philip Koetsch
This is a pretty good book and worth a review/discussion.

The book is a kind of statistical analysis of what you can realistically expect with different betting strategies over the short run.

All the examples are based over 600 rounds of 100 games. So that's 60,000 games.

100 games can be considered the short run as it's possible to fit in 100 games over a couple of hours.

As a benchmark, Koetsch started the first example with just one chip each time and then progresses using different types of progressions. He limits himself to 100 chips maximum for each example and lays out the results in a table format.

He looks for what he considers to be the most useful information.

Namely

1) what are the absolute worst and best things that could theoretically happen?

2) what were the worst and best things that actually did happen in 600 rounds?

3) what were the average worst and best things that did happen?

4) what typically happens if you don't get out while your ahead , but instead play the full round of 100 games?

5) during a round, how often can you expect to get ahead by at least 10, 20 or 30 chips?

6) in a 100 game round, how many times does your bankroll net-status typically reverse from losing to winning?

7) how often does this net-status never reverse but remains losing throughout a 100 game round?

So all in all, it's a very detailed and interesting piece of analysis.

Here is the table for the first example just betting one chip for each of the 100 games.




Made a copy of this test from another topic, to lazy to write it all again saying same thing.

[jekhb76]

Make this one lose, and i Will never Talk about a HG again 
Not one time profit between spin 35 and  spin 105!
Prove it, that it can lose.
I Mean with graph, not numbers.
I'm prett sure it can't lose.
Even if we use a mild progression.
Try me. 

It's Just math.
And even in in the worst case scenario you would lose 630 units per cycle , but Trust me, that won't ever happen.
But i would like to be Proven wrong about this one. Graph and the numbers that go with it to prove that not one profit Point can't be reached between spin 35 - 105. You May use a progression. But only the mildest Form. +1 on a losing bet or when hit and not ain profit.
But if my calculation are Right, we don't even Have to lose if we using flatbet only Without a progression. Remember 1 profit Point is All we need to make us a winner All the Time. That's the HG.

[jekhb76]

If you Have a bank of 1000 euro and play like i descibed. The road from Hell must have No End, because everytime i Have a sidestep, i Will win and turn my car and go home.
No matter how Small your profit is. If you can get it every Time you play and you are sure about that, and math proces it, you Have a HG. If tested many many cycles and never had one Time in 70 spins, that i wasn't in profit at some Point. And it don't Have to have 1.000.000 spin test to prove it. It Just needs to happen only every Time i dit at the Table, and knowing that within An hour or 1.5. hour i'm in my car again with More money then when i enterd the casino. You can win
9.125 / 36.500 a year easly. Trust me, the casino's won't be happy.
Again Just thoughts, but i haven't been Proven wrong with this one yet.