If it does work flat betting

[jekhb76]

I would like to Run a very big test on this, to See what the Max drawdown is but i can't code.
Would like to Run it for a day or two non stop.

Can someone code for RX?

[Joe]

I don't know RX but I can code it in another language. I have a question though : you say when starting a new cycle you bet on those #s which have hit once in the cycle just gone + the 1's in the cycle previous to it which haven't hit. But what about 1's from previous cycles? e.g. if you are starting cycle 4 you bet the 1's from cycle 3 and the 1's which didn't hit again in cycle 2, but what about if there are still #s in cycle 1 which only hit once and haven't hit since? Do you also bet those?

In other words do you only bet the 1's which haven't hit from the 2nd cycle back or do you include #s from previous cycles if there are any?

[jekhb76]

I don't know RX but I can code it in another language. I have a question though : you say when starting a new cycle you bet on those #s which have hit once in the cycle just gone + the 1's in the cycle previous to it which haven't hit. But what about 1's from previous cycles? e.g. if you are starting cycle 4 you bet the 1's from cycle 3 and the 1's which didn't hit again in cycle 2, but what about if there are still #s in cycle 1 which only hit once and haven't hit since?

Cycle 1: 0-35
Track All numbers that hit 1 Time only.
Cycle 2: 35-70
Bet All 1 hit numbers from spin 0-35
Cycle 3: 70-105
Bet All 1 hit numbers from spin 35-70
And the still unhit 1 hitters from spin
0-35.
Cycle 4: 105-140
Bet All numbers from spin 70-105 and the still unhit 1 hitters from spin 0-70
Cycle 5: 140-175
Bet All numbers from spin 105-140 and the still unhit 1 hitters from spin 0-105. Etc etc etc.

[Joe]

Ok what stats do you want to find out from running this or do you just want to see if it wins in the long run?

Do you want me to include a +1 progression, or flat bet only?

[jekhb76]

How do i use math on this one.
Well very simple. By own Experience i never seen a single number Sleep for More then 600+ spins. Is it possible Yes, but it is very very rare. And even if it does that it wil never Sleep for that kind of period again Right after the other. There Will be multiple hits after that within above expectation.

So if we look at my System, if we take the 1 hitters from the first cycle the numbers Will be spreadout from 9 to 18 numbers.
How do i calculated?
Well quite simple really.

How Long Will 9 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 66,6 spins on average. (31sp)
How Long will 10 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 60 spins on average. (25sp)
How Long Will 11 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 54,5 spins on average. (19sp)
How Long Will 12 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 50 spins on average. (15sp)
How Long Will 13 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 46,1 spins on average. (11sp)
How Long Will 14 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 42,8 spins on average. (8 sp)
How Long Will 15 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 40 spins om average. (5 sp)
How Long Will 16 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 37,5 spins on average. (3 sp)
How Long Will 17 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 35,2 spins on average. (1 sp)

I know this is not definitieve, but An execption of what to expect. Could be 1 or 2 spins off but until now i was Right for the last 42 cycles.

If we know the above what to expect, we can now calculated how many hits we need to Always be in profit after every cycle..........

[jekhb76]

Ok what stats do you want to find out from running this or do you just want to see if it wins in the long run?

Do you want me to include a +1 progression, or flat bet only?

Well at First,
Flatbet only
Max drawdown to bankroll
Average profit
Max spin until 1st profit.
And ofcourse how Long before our bank of 1000 units Will be blown.

[jekhb76]

How do i use math on this one.
Well very simple. By own Experience i never seen a single number Sleep for More then 600+ spins. Is it possible Yes, but it is very very rare. And even if it does that it wil never Sleep for that kind of period again Right after the other. There Will be multiple hits after that within above expectation.

So if we look at my System, if we take the 1 hitters from the first cycle the numbers Will be spreadout from 9 to 18 numbers.
How do i calculated?
Well quite simple really.

Remember, betting on the 1hit ones from the first cycle for example is the same when we would pick let's say 15 numbers from spin 1. It doesn't matter.
If you pick 15 numbers and start Spinning for 35 spins, they could be still unhit. So All spins above 35 Will be closer to a hit on one of these numbers. Everytime a number gets hit you need to recLculate.
But that's my reasoning behind my System.

How Long Will 9 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 66,6 spins on average. (31sp)
How Long will 10 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 60 spins on average. (25sp)
How Long Will 11 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 54,5 spins on average. (19sp)
How Long Will 12 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 50 spins on average. (15sp)
How Long Will 13 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 46,1 spins on average. (11sp)
How Long Will 14 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 42,8 spins on average. (8 sp)
How Long Will 15 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 40 spins om average. (5 sp)
How Long Will 16 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 37,5 spins on average. (3 sp)
How Long Will 17 numbers Sleep?
Awnser: 35,2 spins on average. (1 sp)

I know this is not definitieve, but An execption of what to expect. Could be 1 or 2 spins off but until now i was Right for the last 42 cycles.

If we know the above what to expect, we can now calculated how many hits we need to Always be in profit after every cycle..........

[Joe]

Ok, I'll try to do it tomorrow sometime...

[jekhb76]

Ok, I'll try to do it tomorrow sometime...

Ok thanks. Remember, need to restart as soon as 1st profit is reached, then the session is closed and start again.

[Joe]

So how does that work exactly? Do you mean that whenever you get a new high balance you start from the beginning by tracking 35 spins again?

[Steve]

Does it matter, considering the odds are exactly the same on every spin, and every spin is a completely independent event??

[jekhb76]

So how does that work exactly? Do you mean that whenever you get a new high balance you start from the beginning by tracking 35 spins again?

Yes and No.
After a new profit is gained, you look at the last 35 numbers and start betting the 1 hitters again. Usualy you don't Have to change much only a few numbers and continue until a next profit is gained, then retrack again.

[jekhb76]

Does it matter, considering the odds are exactly the same on every spin, and every spin is a completely independent event??

Yes you are Right, it doesn't matter but we are looking at probability. 17 numbers need less spins to hit then 10. So we take advantage of that. Up till now, it's still looking good.

[Joe]

Does it matter, considering the odds are exactly the same on every spin, and every spin is a completely independent event??

I know what you're saying but If you're going to write a simulation it should simulate the system as given otherwise what's the point. If you go by the maths alone there's no need for a simulation; just calculate that all systems will lose at the rate given by the house edge. No need for a computer at all. 

[jekhb76]

I know what you're saying but If you're going to write a simulation it should simulate the system as given otherwise what's the point. If you go by the maths alone there's no need for a simulation; just calculate that all systems will lose at the rate given by the house edge. No need for a computer at all. 

Exactly