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Started by daveylibra, May 02, 08:50 PM 2018

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ZERO

Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 08, 10:45 AM 2018
Exactly jek !

They say “when you are in hole, stop digging”

:)

... and a marti on 17 numbers is like digging a canyon!

:)

ozon

I played only the first options, target profit 400 units under 250 spins, if something exceeded 250 spin, and it did not reach 400, I took first new high.
For this you need a tracker, I used 2 at once.

Now the most important question, which I have not yet determined, whether to accept the loss of -1000 units, when minus exceeds it, or continue to recover?

Roulettebeater

Quote from: ZERO on May 08, 10:53 AM 2018
... and a marti on 17 numbers is like digging a canyon!

:)

Well, since the earth is round like chicken’s egg, if you keep digging you will definitely  come out the other part of the sphere ... isn’t it so ? :(

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

jekhb76

Quote from: ozon on May 08, 10:51 AM 2018
I already thought that one of the optimal options was explained in this post   

Passion Ruleta

I gave you several ideas but you have not read my comment, hehehe.
Take the repeated that there are in 24 balls and play with the progression 1-3-9, as soon as you have a benefit leave those repeated and take the repeated ones that there are in the last 24 balls and play till have another benefit and so on ... You will see how long you always want, because you always catch the new hot ...
Another option take all the repeated up to 37 balls and play with them with the progression 1-3-9 until the 74 ball and eliminate those that follow 2 and take and play all 3 with the progression until the 111 ball.
If you have a good profit on the 74 ball or before it returns to restart but continues until the 111 with those of 3 or more with the progression, but a number that has 9 chips does not go up to more chips, it remains with 9.
You will always have before the 74 ball or before the 111 benefits.
If you do not realize what happens, look at the law of radioactive decay and you will see what it explains.
Anything you tell me and tell me if it is true that I know what Turbo does or not, that I already told you.
I know, but Both failed in the End.
Not the optimum System. The thoughts were good, but it failed in the long Run. I've tested them Both in rx.
That's why i said that we need to go back to the basics of the turbo's post about the Time machine! :thumbsup:

We need to search for a System that Always brings profit at some Point.
Doesn't Have to be a HG only the following criteria needs to be met.

1. Not to Large bankroll. Max 10.000 units.
2. Max. Play hours 8
3. Playable in a BM casino.
4. Not too many numbers played at the same Time.
5. Profit needs to be between 50-250 euro/dollar at the End of the day. 8 hours work day Max.
6. Can't loose! So we need the math where Turbo was talking about.
Failute isn't An option. You don't play 8 hours a day Max and go home emptt ended. It must bring these profits every day, 5 days a week.

There must be some method that can provider this endless.

jekhb76

Quote from: jekhb76 on May 08, 11:20 AM 2018
I know, but Both failed in the End.
Not the optimum System. The thoughts were good, but it failed in the long Run. I've tested them Both in rx.
That's why i said that we need to go back to the basics of the turbo's post about the Time machine! :thumbsup:

We need to search for a System that Always brings profit at some Point.
Doesn't Have to be a HG only the following criteria needs to be met.

1. Not to Large bankroll. Max 10.000 units.
2. Max. Play hours 8
3. Playable in a BM casino.
4. Not too many numbers played at the same Time.
5. Profit needs to be between 50-250 euro/dollar at the End of the day. 8 hours work day Max.
6. Can't loose! So we need the math where Turbo was talking about.
Failure isn't An option. You don't play 8 hours a day Max and go home empty handed. It must bring these profits every day, 5 days a week.

There must be some method that can provider this endless.

daveylibra

Hi Jek

The Feb 1st Turbo post sounds good but the house edge is not "reduced to 0."
It may be that profit/loss  did = 0 for a particular run, but, so?
Check my "Turbo's Repeaters Simulations" post.
Run the BASIC program. End results, sometimes good, often bad.
Unfortunately I can program a bit in BASIC, but not rx.
And I'm not saying that there is not a god repeater system, I'm just querying that particular post.

ozon

Still, I think that what I wrote about Passion Ruleta's post is the most important signpost in what has been written about repeaters on these forums.
We have repeaters
We have gap (in my case 22 spins) and rolling basis.
Which means we're currently playing hot numbers, if they stop being hot, we stop playing them.

This is the basis, it is hard to come up with something more optimal for the bet selection about   hot numbers

Now we can only combine with progression
I think 1-3-9 is very good
Variable is whether we will switch to the first profit or we will hunt for a big win, just like TURBO, target profit over 1000 units, and stop lose I think 1000 units

jekhb76

Quote from: daveylibra on May 08, 11:57 AM 2018
Hi Jek

The Feb 1st Turbo post sounds good but the house edge is not "reduced to 0."
It may be that profit/loss  did = 0 for a particular run, but, so?
Check my "Turbo's Repeaters Simulations" post.
Run the BASIC program. End results, sometimes good, often bad.
Unfortunately I can program a bit in BASIC, but not rx.
And I'm not saying that there is not a god repeater system, I'm just querying that particular post.
I think MM and the kind of progression is the key including what to bet, when. To bet and when to drop and when a nr returns. He says that when using the Right math, it can't loose. Sure it loses before it wins, that's naturaly, otherwise you can't bet. There is Always First a drawdown before profit.
Let's think Turbo way;
Before everyone gets on my Back, i don't say it is how turbo's working, Just my thought about what and how to use the math.

Let's take the 1-5-25-50-100-150 progression. This is a huge progression Table wich required a big bank.
What we have learned from the Time machine post is that Turbo does indeed or can bet on numbers that Have shown only once. Not by bet, too many numbers for my Taste and the change that we will Run into a +21 spin before we have a hit, is Always on the lookout. But following the Time machine post we bet on every number that shows with 1 unit. We continue until one of our numbers got hit, No that number is a two. We All know, well let's asume that 37 out 37 won't happen during our Life time. Let's say we have a minimum of 4 repeats in our cycle of 37 spins. That happens i've had alot of sessions where i only had 4 2s and No 3s.
Who says Turbo is using the progression of 1-5-25 for that matter in this sequence????
My understanding is when a cycle is dragging along too Long Without a repeat that he has calculated what the higher First bet must be, to cover our previous losses??? Just thinking out loud. I can imagine that when you've got your First repeat at spin 23 for example you won't place a 5 unit bet on the number that has Just turned a 2!!! This won't result in a profit. What if he starts now with a higher bet of 25 instead of 5 units. Knowing that in the remaining 14 spins, he will get atleast 3 More hits???????

Again Just thinking out loud.
Remember a progression can be used in All kinds of formaat. It don't Have to be An up goin' sequence of 1-2-3-4-5

It can also be used as a 4-3-5-1-2 for example. It could well be that Turbo is playing like this when nessesary and we are all looking at the Traditional way of playing. But it don't Have to be like that when the cercumstances ar not in line with how you would like to play.

Mmmmm  :question: :ooh:

jekhb76

Just thinking.....
What if we  Shuffle the progression crap and start flatbetting.

Only 2s becoming 3s ???

:ooh:

Bigbroben

Here's what I've been up to lately:
Let's pretend a perfect shot is one unit on one nr and a hit. 36x bet.Maximal profit possible, perfect.
Ley's say "progression 2" is to bet on 2 nrs, so on.
Now, unlike d'alembert +1/-1, keep it flat, add nrs as they come.  On a hit: remove the oldest nr.
On hits, yournext bet is reduced of one unit.  On good games you'll be up 100 or 200u, sometimes betting 16 nrs, then a few spins later 12, 10, back and fort in the "progression".  You can stay  below 18 nrs for quite a while.
There are 3 steps in  this type of game:
1) stop at desired goal (50,100,200u);
2) stop at 18 and see if in profit;
3) and step 3.

Step 3 is a grind.  Only remove the old nr when you won more than bet.  19: 2 hits then reduce.  Up to 24: 2 hits.
25 to 27: 3 hits.
28: 4 hits.
29 to 30: 5 hits.
31: 7 hits.
32: 8 hits.
33: 11 hits
34: 17 hits
35: 35 hits.  Stop.

Eventualy, if unlucky in the beginning, luck comes back.  As hits are added the floor ( max loss of 630) goes up and you cannot lose more than this.
In 15 games I got one at 400, a few at 200 and if gone to step 3 it always came back.  Suggest stop step 3 as soon as profit.  Just to test, the worse loss if co tinued to 35 nrs was 155.

It seems to be a well adapted alembert-ish prog with inbuild max loss.

I'll show games when back home.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Herby

Quote from: ozon on May 08, 10:51 AM 2018
look at the law of radioactive decay and you will see what it explains.

I append a picture of the "radioactive decay" of  the nonhits and its products.
I created this picture with own calculations, any similarities to other pictures are unintended and never meant to be a clone.   O0

 

Madi

U always refer turbo said this turbo said that. Do u actually follow what he said??

jekhb76

Quote from: Madi on May 08, 04:02 PM 2018
U always refer turbo said this turbo said that. Do u actually follow what he said??
Yes i do actualy.
But following him, reading his posts, doesn't mean i understand everything .

Madi

What progression r u using and wht he recommend?
How many numbers r u playing and and what he recommends

Roulettebeater

Quote from: jekhb76 on May 08, 04:06 PM 2018
Yes i do actualy.
But following him, reading his posts, doesn't mean i understand everything .

then you are obsessed with him... wake up
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

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