Sector 16 FLAT

[ignatus]

Did 3 session now, (I believe, this is the best i can do for this one), I also fixed the code , (current number bet) and 7 neighbors on each side (15 numbers bet)

Wingoal +400
Stoploss -350


TEST 1 (7/10)

wins 
+450
+405
+420
+405
+420
+435
+435

losses
-375
-375
-360



TEST 2 (5/10)

wins
+480
+435
+465
+450
+450

losses
-405
-390
-375
-375
-420



TEST 3 (6/10)

wins
+435
+420
+495
+465
+405
+435

losses
-420
-345
-360
-375

===========================
RX Code;

system "Sector 15"

method "main"
begin

if bankroll>400
begin
  stop session
end

if bankroll<-350
begin
  stop session
end

  Track Last Number for 1 spins to Record "last1" Layout

  Put 7 on Neighbor Count

   Copy Neighbors of Record "last1" Layout
   to Record "neighbors" Layout

Put 5 units on Record "neighbors" Layout List
Put 5 units on Record "last1" layout
end

[daveylibra]

Hi there

This is the way to go! Including the code and extended testing - very good post.
I tried the original code with original goal and stoploss but got about 5/10 at best.
However will try this method.
Just 1 thing to add - 1unit bets= 80 goal, 70 stop.
When betting 15 units per spin these are quite tight.

[daveylibra]

PS copy/pasted the code, ran 10 tests, got 3/10. Must be unlucky!

[ignatus]

PS copy/pasted the code, ran 10 tests, got 3/10. Must be unlucky!

Yes, we need more testings, sometimes it can be like that, yes? but i figure +400/-350 is best, (i've played around with smaller stoplosses and higher wingoals but no good, so, ....) There are perhaps a few options here, either, run more tests (the code is in my last post) OR find a trigger (if any) or use progression idk,.... you have to figure somthing out, i ran out of good ideas with this one....   

[Ricky]

PS copy/pasted the code, ran 10 tests, got 3/10. Must be unlucky!

Hi Davey,
no you were not unlucky. That's random for you. If correct random numbers chosen then it is a winner like any system. The trick is using the math and knowing when it is working and when its not.

As I mentioned on a B&M live dealer this method is good for tracking dealer footprints. This is when you really should be using this method. You can track for a series of hits and then bet only when you get 2-3 hits

Otherwise we are reliant on Mr random to generate the lucky numbers

[daveylibra]

Hi Ig and Ricky
Just a thought. Live dealer and Autowheel could show a signature. I've always thought autowheel seems very prone to vb, as its so mechanical. But it would be pointless testing on Rx.
Do as above, but use the number shown PREVIOUS to the last. This is because live/autowheel alternates between clockwise and anticlockwise.
Testing would have to be mechanical.

[Ricky]

Hi Ig and Ricky
Just a thought. Live dealer and Autowheel could show a signature. I've always thought autowheel seems very prone to vb, as its so mechanical. But it would be pointless testing on Rx.
Do as above, but use the number shown PREVIOUS to the last. This is because live/autowheel alternates between clockwise and anticlockwise.
Testing would have to be mechanical.

Hi Davey,
I would not trust these autowheel systems because on observing them and playing them occasionally I find the speed of the wheel changes automatically between spins supposedly to generate those "random" numbers. But if you think how could this system be manipulated you can imagine it can be programmed to target a specific number based on your bets. So I tend to be cautious playing them and only when others are playing to avoid detection of my system play.

You are right in you can't test the success of this bet selection alone with RX RND generator because your bet selection using repeats or neighbours is not about randomness, its about looking for that dealer footprint. With this method as described though I think 15 numbers, although a good number to cover just under half the wheel, does not really take advantage of dealer footprint as if you were selecting only 5 numbers around the last number.

Just to give you an example of how powerful picking up a dealer footprint can be last Easter I was at a table just before close for the holiday and the dealer was hitting the pockets around number 11. 3 times in a row the ball landed in this region. One observant gambler jumped onto the table and quickly identified the 5 numbers around 11 and place $25 chips on them. He won $900 (less his lost bets) twice in a row as the numbers around 11 got hit.

So this method can be very profitable if you can program a good trigger. Unfortunately, online casinos like the one posted in this thread don't spin the ball fairly based on the last number spun. Sometimes they let the wheel go half way round before releasing the ball. So if their was some rythm to be picked up with number of revolutions and speed of the ball etc this would get lost in the unpredictable nature of the release. Also I don't trust them to allow the ball to land fairly without some sort of targeting of pockets.

In terms of your idea with clockwise/anticlockwise rotation, there is some merit to this in that a dealer will handle the ball differently depending on the direction they are spinning it so if you keep track of the numbers based on direction you may pick up some signature. But what we are looking for here in either case is a FULL rotation where the ball lands roughly at the same spot as it was released or the wheel is spinning at the same speed and causing the ball spinning with the same speed to land in the same area of the wheel on each spin.

Sometimes signatures aren't that obvious  in that you may get ones that are 3/4 rotations or 1/2 rotations and land on the opposite side of the last number etc. So it starts getting a little complex to program a trigger when you see this sort of activity.

In any case we should do our testing on live spins whether they be recorded or played in real time on a reputable online casino.

Cheers,
Ricky

[comfi]

Awesome. Just what I needed