Solve this, solve the HG.

[Roulettebeater]

Easy.  Flatbet 1 unit.  After the first 7 spins you're down -7 units.  Now, you know you're guaranteed 5 wins in the next 5 spins....bet the maximum amount of money you have! 

Hahaha

You made me laugh since long time!

Your answer shows that you lack the experience... I will tell you why:

You adjusted your stake after you saw the order of the w/l

But in real life, the order will be casual and you have no way to pre-review it

[Scarface]

Hahaha

You made me laugh since long time!

Your answer shows that you lack the experience... I will tell you why:

You adjusted your stake after you saw the order of the w/l

But in real life, the order will be casual and you have no way to pre-review it

It's called positive progression.  You raise your bet after the first win.  If you're new to roulette, I recommend you search positive progression.  In this case, the first win came after 7 losses...7 losses was the max, so quite easy to beat

If 5 wins were guaranteed in 12 spins, this would be a holy grail.  But this guarantee doesn't exist.  No point discussing it further. 

[vladir]

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L
L
L
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W


These are 12 spins, can you show us your magic progression ?

Actually in this case its quite easy. First bet is 1 unit. Then you must keep track of your DrawDown and how many wins remain (you start at 5 wins). Then you bet at each step using this simple formula, rounded up :  (Current DrawDown+1)/Remaining Wins expected.


In the specific example you provided, applying the formula would give you :
1
2
2
2
3
3
4
5
4
4
3
2

.Try it

[daveylibra]

YES VLADIR !! This is the conclusion I came to.
Yet I have not found, even though I have browsed this forum a lot, any system that uses this as its basis.

And yes Scarface, I know we have no guarantee, but imagine doing this 10 times, carrying the target over.
and we can try different x & y (drawdown & wins expected.)

[vladir]

YES VLADIR !! This is the conclusion I came to.
Yet I have not found, even though I have browsed this forum a lot, any system that uses this as its basis.

And yes Scarface, I know we have no guarantee, but imagine doing this 10 times, carrying the target over.
and we can try different x & y (drawdown & wins expected.)

I guess you haven't found it because we have no guarantes of wining in any method... You can have sessions of only losses, and there is no progression that will help you with that.

[Bigbroben]

If LLLLLLLWWWWW (7xL + 5xW), a simple alembert would work:

-1-2-3-4-5-6-7+8+7+6+5+4=2

[Scarface]

A bit off topic, but just ran a few test with 12 spins.  Ran a 12 spin test for 15 times in a row for a total of 180 spins and noticed something that could be made into a system.

Just looking a red/black.  14 out of 15 runs of 12 spins, had at least one series of red or black repeat at least 3 times in a row.

Using a parlay progression, 1 unit will become 8 units with 3 consecutive hits

I think this could be worked into a good system

[Scarface]

Just ran another test of 12 spins...15 times in a row.  13 out of 15 had at least one streak of 3 red or black in a row

[daveylibra]

What's great about Vladir's formula is that it will work for ANY combination of W/L.
Now, the fabled 65 / 200. I'm willing to bet on 35 / 100.
What if we split it into 5 sets of 7 / 20 ?
We don't have to get 7 wins from 20 every time, just eventually.

[vladir]

What's great about Vladir's formula is that it will work for ANY combination of W/L.
Now, the fabled 65 / 200. I'm willing to bet on 35 / 100.
What if we split it into 5 sets of 7 / 20 ?
We don't have to get 7 wins from 20 every time, just eventually.

The problem with 65/200 is that you will get out of table limits.  And the formula doesn't work for 0W combinations.

[Scarface]

Interesting.  What is this formula?  I'm not familiar with this

[Roulettebeater]

Vladi

Thx for having posted your progression, before I dive into it, i would like to know the requirements when it can be profitable, can you sum them up ?

[Scarface]

What's great about Vladir's formula is that it will work for ANY combination of W/L.
Now, the fabled 65 / 200. I'm willing to bet on 35 / 100.
What if we split it into 5 sets of 7 / 20 ?
We don't have to get 7 wins from 20 every time, just eventually.

Another thing to consider that might help us solve this:  everytime we get less than 7/20...there will be another round that MUST get more than 7/20 if the end ratio is no worse than 70/200

[Winner]

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L
L
L
L
L
W
W
W
W
W


These are 12 spins, can you show us your magic progression ?

1111 2 4 8 16 32 64
I'm plus 2

[daveylibra]

Hi Vladi.
Sorry but what is meant by 0W combinations?