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Solve this, solve the HG.

Started by daveylibra, May 17, 02:42 PM 2018

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daveylibra

OK, to simplify things, let's suppose for the next 12 spins of a roulette wheel, we are confident we will win 5 EC bets. (Or we could imagine we are playing a machine in which we somehow know it has been programmed to give 5 wins in the next 12 spins.)
How could we play those 12 spins in order to be in profit, but also keep our bets as low as possible?
Well, we could play a labouchere. If 1/3, +1 of our bets win, we are in profit. Am I right in assuming this would be the best way to approach 5 wins from 12, not knowing beforehand in which order they come, of course?
Now, what would we do if we have a machine which is programmed to give us 3 wins from 12? Or, to take it further, x wins?
Can anyone solve this?

precogmiles

Quote from: daveylibra on May 17, 02:42 PM 2018
not knowing beforehand in which order they come
...
Can anyone solve this?

No, It is not possible if you do not know the order beforehand.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: daveylibra on May 17, 02:42 PM 2018
OK, to simplify things, let's suppose for the next 12 spins of a roulette wheel, we are confident we will win 5 EC bets. (Or we could imagine we are playing a machine in which we somehow know it has been programmed to give 5 wins in the next 12 spins.)
How could we play those 12 spins in order to be in profit, but also keep our bets as low as possible?
Well, we could play a labouchere. If 1/3, +1 of our bets win, we are in profit. Am I right in assuming this would be the best way to approach 5 wins from 12, not knowing beforehand in which order they come, of course?
Now, what would we do if we have a machine which is programmed to give us 3 wins from 12? Or, to take it further, x wins?
Can anyone solve this?

Einstein has been given the same mathematical task/dilemma and asked for a solution, he took 7 days studying it... at the 7th day he went out the street and told his famous quote:

""" You cant beat roulette table "mathematically", unless you steal money from it"""".
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

jekhb76

Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 17, 03:02 PM 2018
Einstein has been given the same mathematical task/dilemma and asked for a solution, he took 7 days studying it... at the 7th day he went out the street and told his famous quote:

""" You cant beat roulette table "mathematically", unless you steal money from it"""".

Funny, how many people think Einstein Really said this - - - - - > He Never did. - - - - - - - > Know Your History.

Bigbroben

Life is hard, and then you die.
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Roulettebeater

Quote from: jekhb76 on May 17, 03:19 PM 2018Funny, how many people think Einstein Really said this - - - - - > He Never did. - - - - - - - > Know Your History.

whats your evidence that he didnt say it ?
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

jekhb76

Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 17, 03:23 PM 2018You cant beat roulette table "mathematically", unless you steal money from it
He Said;  "The only way to beat Roulette is to steal the money when the dealer's not looking."

Roulettebeater

Quote from: jekhb76 on May 17, 03:50 PM 2018
He Said;  "The only way to beat Roulette is to steal the money when the dealer's not looking."


:thumbsup:
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Proofreaders2000

If you are referring to the Kimo Li
quote in the "Accuracy of Predictions" thread

mathematically it sounds like he is flat-bet playing
24 numbers (re: if you miss one you need three wins)

Scarface

Yes, I think this can be solved.  But how can we be sure to have 5 wins out of 12?

Will have to wait on the first win, before deciding what progression to use.  If it was 5 spins before the first win, then we'll know that we'll win 4 out of the next 7.

If 5 wins out of 12 was guaranteed, it would be very easy to beat

Roulettebeater

Quote from: Scarface on May 17, 04:56 PM 2018Yes, I think this can be solved.  But how can we be sure to have 5 wins out of 12?
ok, first of all, go and make an assessment for your IQ.
if your IQ is superior than Einstein's then we will follow u, otherwise we will save our time and watch TV instead!
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Scarface

Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 17, 04:58 PM 2018
ok, first of all, go and make an assessment for your IQ.
if your IQ is superior than Einstein's then we will follow u, otherwise we will save our time and watch TV instead!

Roulettebeater, there would be a simple solution to this if you are GUARANTEED 5 wins out of 12.  Not sure if math is your strong point?  As long as a progression can be used, this would be a guaranteed winner.

BUT, I dont know of any guarantees that will always produce 5 out of 7 wins on even bets without fail.

Even Einstein would agree with me on that  :)

Scarface

In fact, I would pay $500 just to play a game that had a guaranteed win rate of 5 out of 12 on even bets. 

Roulettebeater

Quote from: Scarface on May 17, 05:03 PM 2018
Roulettebeater, there would be a simple solution to this if you are GUARANTEED 5 wins out of 12.  Not sure if math is your strong point?  As long as a progression can be used, this would be a guaranteed winner.

BUT, I dont know of any guarantees that will always produce 5 out of 7 wins on even bets without fail.

Even Einstein would agree with me on that  :)

NO

review basic math!
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Scarface

Roulettebeater, seriously?  Are you just the troll on this site, or just not good at basic math?

If someone is allowed to use a progression, and guaranteed 5 wins in 12 spins on an even bet this WOULD be a guaranteed winner.  Like I said, I would pay a good entry fee to have these odds, since this would be very easy to beat.

I'm just answering a hypothetical question here.  I'm not suggesting a win rate like that exist...just saying it would be easily won

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