Repeaters and Gaps

[Bigbroben]

Yeah....

Guess I should have said: ''time for bed'' instead.

You know, I punched out, so I don't care anymore!

[Mako]

Yeah....

Guess I should have said: ''time for bed'' instead.

You know, I punched out, so I don't care anymore!

I liked it. 

[Bigbroben]

Ok,
preliminary results for 13869 trials, using MPR spins from Random.org:

as expected, distribution of first repeaters comes as follows:


In these 13869 runs, the 2nd repeater came on average 4 spins later.  Distribution:


Here comes the interesting part:
on average, the 2nd repeaters hit right after 1st repeater 19,82% of times.
3rd repeater hit right after 2nd repeater 27,93% of times.
Ok.

Let's compare theory and the results.  When 1st repeater hits on spin 2, theory shows the next spin would be a repeater 2.7% (1/37th) of times.  A 1st repeater on spin 8 would see a 2nd repeater on next spin 7/37th of times.
Here is theory versus results:

For 1st repeater:


Proportional difference, in graph:


For 2nd repeater:


Proportional difference, in graph:


Will continue to run the macro, I expect the proportional difference curve to smoothen out.  Too early to say the trend is clear?

[6th-sense]

Ok,
preliminary results for 13869 trials, using MPR spins from Random.org:

as expected, distribution of first repeaters comes as follows:


In these 13869 runs, the 2nd repeater came on average 4 spins later.  Distribution:


Here comes the interesting part:
on average, the 2nd repeaters hit right after 1st repeater 19,82% of times.
3rd repeater hit right after 2nd repeater 27,93% of times.
Ok.

Let's compare theory and the results.  When 1st repeater hits on spin 2, theory shows the next spin would be a repeater 2.7% (1/37th) of times.  A 1st repeater on spin 8 would see a 2nd repeater on next spin 7/37th of times.
Here is theory versus results:

For 1st repeater:


Proportional difference, in graph:


For 2nd repeater:


Proportional difference, in graph:


Will continue to run the macro, I expect the proportional difference curve to smoothen out.  Too early to say the trend is clear?

Very interesting stuff this...would the 2nd repeater be from all numbers out or a certain section of the numbers out ? That would be even more interesting ..

[Bigbroben]

What do you mean?

Like: the second repeater comes from the last 8 nrs out, or something like that?
In a 37 spin-cycle, 52% or so of repeaters are from a nr that appeared within the last 8 nrs out.

[6th-sense]

What do you mean?

Like: the second repeater comes from the last 8 nrs out, or something like that?
In a 37 spin-cycle, 52% or so of repeaters are from a nr that appeared within the last 8 nrs out.

Excactly like that yes..the percentage of the area the 2nd repeat came out..there must be a rolling  effect in the game where next cycle comes in and not at the end...herby did a mathimatica graph showing where 1st repeat came out and as it dropped the next lot started coming out..
And so forth..where these start to converge as one line on graph drops the other rises maybe that’s would be a key point ..

[Bigbroben]

Ok, I should be able to insert this info for the next 25k trials that are left.  You'd say an ordinal gap or spin gap?  Although both are close one to another with only 2 or 3 repeaters.  Will go with ordinal gap.

[Bigbroben]

After 20363 trials:

Reminder: the next 2 graphs represent the percentage difference between theory and this test, comparing the spin after 1st repeater (and 2nd), to see if it is another repeater or not.


Love this one.  Don't know, though, why the jigsaw shape of it.




6th-sense:
Ordinals of 2nd and 3rd repeaters are as follows:

[Bigbroben]

Results of second test, 40k game starts, using random.org spins:

charting hitrate of the next repeater (2nd or 3rd) on the next spin after 1st and 2nd repeater.

So, if 1st repeater arrives on spin x, percentage difference y of hitrate vs theory.

Somewhat mild difference on the spin after the first repeater:


Very interesting results on the hitrate after 2nd repeater, especially on quick repeaters:


Take a second repeater hitting on spin 6.  Happened 925 times in 40k.  3rd repeater arrived on next spin 120 times, which is 12,97%, as opposed to a theorical 10,81%, so 20% higher.

Looking forward for next results, to see if consistent...

[Scarface]

Nice testing Bigroben!  Based on results, what's a good strategy to use? 

[Bigbroben]

Do you mean: what is the spin gap between rep1 and rep2, rep2 and rep3?

[Bigbroben]

Nice testing Bigroben!  Based on results, what's a good strategy to use?

Quick, I'd say: play 4 nrs when 4 nrs appear in 6 spins.  Did not calculate yet, based on results.  Will do soon.  Still, these are past results can't garantee it will continue.
I' ll play with the excel sheet later today.

[Bigbroben]

Passion,

if you mean: what is the ordinal gap of the repeating nr, here are some infos.  Analysis of last 40k game starts.

Repeater 2:


Repeater 3:


Cumulative:


So, if you bet last 8 numbers out for the second repeater, you would have caught 78% of them.

If you meant gaps between repeater 1 and 2, or 2 and 3:


Algo mas?

[6th-sense]

Passion,

if you mean: what is the ordinal gap of the repeating nr, here are some infos.  Analysis of last 40k game starts.

Repeater 2:
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Repeater 3:
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Cumulative:


So, if you bet last 8 numbers out for the second repeater, you would have caught 78% of them.

If you meant gaps between repeater 1 and 2, or 2 and 3:


Algo mas?

seen this before somewhere.. apart from yourself..interesting stuff ..precisley what i was getting at

[Bigbroben]

I don't understand what you mean!

Gve an example?