CHT Baccarat play

[RayManZ]

Hi,

I would like to figure out how cht plays his baccarat system. He said some thing on this forum, but it is not all crystal clear to me. I opened this thread because he mentioned somewhere that he does not respond to a PM.

The basic can be found here:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.msg189585#msg189585

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The 1st change is when do I start the game. I record the 1st 9 results to find out which holds the majority - Player or Banker. Eg. Player holds the majority I start the game when the 1st column of the 3 series starts with Player. Early Banker series is ignored. If the count is a tie, extend another series.

P B P
B T P
P B P Total 5Player 3Banker, Player majority.
B B P
B P B
P B P Start game.

The 2nd change I make is I don't bet PB. I wait for one of the series pattern to appear that is immediately followed by the next series that is a repeat of an earlier series pattern.

P B P
B T P
P B P Total 5Player 3Banker, Player majority.
B B P
B P B
P B P 1 Start game.
B P P 2
P P B 3
P B P 1repeat (column 2 and column 3 is different)

Comparing the last 2 series by column, column 2 and column 3 is different. When at least 2 out of 3 columns are different it signals a bet potential - trigger. I plan to bet against pattern 3 at the 3rd column, provided column 1 and 2 is same with pattern 3.

P B P
B T P
P B P Total 5Player 3Banker, Player majority.
B B P
B P T
P B P 1 (Start game)
B P P 2
P P B 3
P B P 1repeat
P P    Column 1 and 2 is same as pattern 3, bet Player

P P P means win
P P B means lose


An advantage rolling based play method can be found here:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.msg192341#msg192341

Some more details to go along with the image:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.msg192420#msg192420

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CHT, thanks again for sharing. I understand perfectly your post... but devil is in details.
Just a couple of more questions:
in your sample, I understand you aborted the signal in the first col as BBB,PPPP appeared.
but in the second row, why you didn't bet against PPB appering twice?

[b]According to my test, this bet is breakeven at best. So I don't risk this type of bet.
[/b]
you only circled the winning B.

[b]The circled B marks the start of my pattern count - I don't start at the beginning of the shoe. Read my earlier post how I run a process to determine when I start my pattern count.[/b]

I guess you look for a playable pattern one starting with P and one starting with B, am I right?

[b]In the 2nd column, row 10 BBP repeats - row4 BBP followed by P(opposite of B) in row 5 col 1 marks the perfect signal for betting. Virtual loss/win.[/b]

[b]In the 3rd column, row 4 BPP repeats - row1 BPP followed by P(opposite of B) in row 2 col 1 marks the perfect signal for betting. Virtual win.[/b]

and in the third row, I understand your first attack to BPP but don't understand what you tracked after that.

[b]Tracking BPP, PBB, PBP which may repeat.[/b]

One more on MM: you play this method with the prog 0-1-1. I guess this was based on your stats with a not so solid winnings at 1st attempt... ore there are any other reasons?

[b]That's the reason. No point winning to give them back later. Play with 6-8 units br.[/b]


I also found two other recent rules:
12 units bankroll
4 times flatbet stop on win

So how do we put this all together?
He said he bets 4 times and stops on a win? But in his basic example he only bets 1 time and in his rolling example it also different.

Anybody knows more? I would like to code this into something usefull but the rules are not clear for me at the moment.

[AndyCasinoK]

I am very interested about the method , but i have some difficulties to understand the explanations ...

[Diagnoyaz]

Can you recommend a way to find out more? And how should I prepare for these basic knowledge?

[Andre Chass]

If you guys are looking for a "system" to play baccarat, forget it!

There is no system... There are STRATEGIES and money management.

The only way to win is to bet that a rare event will not happen.

Ex: BPP BPP BPP bet PBB

The variance in Bacarrat is lower than Roulette s variance. And no Zero (the main reason you can't beat Roulette long term).

MM and progression is a personal choice.

Imho

[cht]

I will post the full system this weekend.

[777]

Looking forward 

[AndyCasinoK]

I will post the full system this weekend.

Thank you so much

[RayManZ]

I will post the full system this weekend.

Looking forward to it CHT.

[cht]

I will give the full system in a few posts below. The explanation will include some general rules about the baccarat game itself.

Here is how I play baccarat at the electronic table games 8deck burn card super six baccarat shoe in a b&m casino.

The reason why I play with etg baccarat is because the signals to bet are few but accurate. So I need to scan a large number of shoes for the signals.

There are 2 main types of baccarat with 2 variations.

1. Normal commission 5% baccarat with no burn card - 70+ hands per shoe
2. Normal commission 5% baccarat with burn card - 60+ hands per shoe
3. No commission(Super six) baccarat with no burn card - 70+ hands per shoe
4. No commission(Super six) baccarat with burn card - 60+ hands per shoe

Those are the 4 types of baccarat where there are a differences in the rules of whether to pull the 3rd card or not.

***Burn card means the 1st card in each hand is discarded followed by the actual cards pulled for the hand. No burn card means that no cards is discarded in each hand.

The speed of each hand for etg baccarat is 1minute per hand. So for a burn card baccarat it will take about 60hands x 1 min = 60mins(1hr) per shoe.

For etg baccarat machine there could be multiple shoes for each machine. For this method which requires manual translation of the base data onto paper, the ideal is to monitor 2 shoes at 1 sitting. This will give the scanning rate at 2 shoes per 1 hr of play.

So for a daily 5 hrs play will give 5hrs x 2 shoes = 10 shoes per day.

I play with a partner together will give a max 20 shoes per day.

***It is important to note the type of baccarat I play that I did extensive research on the shoes before actual money betting. If you use this system make sure you understand the differences, if any, and even if they are the same exact baccarat type do test extensively before you make real money bets.

Disclaimer - Gambling is inherently risky and you may lose money.

[cht]

The basics is that the baccarat result is reorganised into series of 3, example

P P P B T B P B T P B P B P P P P B B B P B B B

The above data reorganised 3 series data will look like this

P P P
B T B
P B T
P B P
B P P
P P B
B B P
B B B

There are 8 sets of different series -

P P P
P P B
P B P
P B B
B B B
B B P
B P B
B P P

[cht]

For the complete translation of data and to increase the number of signals, the original data has to be translated into 3 rolling sets of 3 series data. Example

P P P B T B P B T P B P B P P P P B B B P B B B

1st                    2nd                3rd

P P P                 P P B              P B T
B T B                T B P              B P B
P B T                B T P              T P B
P B P                B P B              P B P
B P P                P P P              P P P
P P B                P B B              B B B
B B P               B P B              P B B
B B B               B B                 B

This translation process has to be done with pen and paper provided by the casino. The hands are played at 1 min rate which entails you to update this 3 sets of 3 rolling series for the 2 shoes that you play per sitting. The time window of 1 min is short that means you are required to practice to acquire the skill of translation and scan for signals to bet at the same time. This translation process is continuous for the entire shoe which runs continuously for 5hrs of play of 10 shoes per player. This requires concentration and focus without making mistakes.

[cht]

The 1st segment, we determine the start play for the shoe.
Example(Include tie)

P P P B T B P B T P B P B P P P P B B B P B B B

9 data
P P P
B T B
P B T

4P, 3B gives a majority P
This means the series will start when the 1st result of the series starts with P. Earlier series that starts with B is ignored.

Example(Include tie)
P P P B T B P B B P P B

9 data
P P P
B T B
P B B

4P, 4B gives no majority.

Where there is no majority for 9 data we extend another 3 data

Example(Include tie)
P P P B T B P B B P B B

12 data
P P P
B T B
P B B
P B B

5P, 6B gives majority B.

This means the series will start when the 1st result of the series starts with B. Earlier series that starts with P is ignored.

(I will continue the rest of the translation process and signals to bet tomorrow)

[cht]

There is the starter determination 3 series segment followed by the 3 rolling series segment.

Example

P P P B T B P B T P B P B P P P P B B B P B B B

Starter determination(include tie)

9 data
P P P
B T B
P B T

4P, 3B gives a majority P
This means the series will start when the 1st result of the series starts with P. Earlier series that starts with B is ignored.

3 rolling sets of 3 series(exclude tie)

1st                     2nd                3rd

P B P                 B P B              P B P         
B P P                 P P P              P P P
P P B                 P B B              B B B
B B P                 B P B              P B B
B B B                 B B                 B

In the 1st rolling set, the 1st hand of the 1st series is P. This means the 1st rolling set starts on the 1st series.
In the 2nd rolling set, the 1st hand of the 2nd series is P. This means the 2nd rolling set starts on the 2nd series. The 1st series is ignored.
In the 3rd rolling set, the 1st hand of the 2nd series is P. This means the 3rd rolling set starts on the 2nd series. The 1st series is ignored.

This is the complete translation process from the original data done real time updated for each hand with pen & paper.

[cht]

This image is a real shoe I played showing the 3 rolling sets of 3 series(minus the starter determination data that I do separately which gives a B that I circled in the image to mark the start of the 3 series proper.).

B P B P P P B P P B B B P P P B P P B P B B P B P B P P B B P B P P 

[cht]

The signal to bet. (Reference to the Pcht image above)

There are 8 sets of different series -

1.  P P P
2.  P P B
3.  P B P
4.  P B B
5.  B B B
6.  B B P
7.  B P B
8.  B P P

The idea is to bet against a series type when it repeats.

Example

B P P we bet P B B.

In the 1st set, there is a repeat of P P P(denoted by 2R), the 2nd  set, there is a repeat of P P B(denoted by 2R) and B B P(denoted by 1R), and  the 3rd  set, there is a repeat of B P P(denoted by 1R), P B P(2R), P B P(2R).

We bet the next series of 3 hands that the hands will not give the same exact series. Stop at a win or complete loss of 3 hands.

***There are rules as to when we ignore the bet signal that I detail below.