37 back to basics

[nottophammer]

BBB
Repeats?

[Irish88]

With the theory of there is an average of 12 doubles per cycle we all assumed that was in  reference to repeaters. Repeaters must happen. But doubles of a different kind must happen. Pairs. Doesn’t matter if it’s carpet pairs or wheel pairs. So after 8-9 spins as I mentioned before your unhits have now been laid out. We know 12 unhits won’t happen in a row along the line. So maybe this is how we start the bet and continue from there.

[jono1167]

Thanks Ricky..be nice to start this thread back up in the new year for any interested party’s..

Ricky will put an rx dgt file based on the concept to play in rx when he has time..

Would like anyone interested in it to discuss it in a reasonable manner as it will be a base for you to improve upon..
meanwhile happy new year

Count me in! Time to get stuck into this thread again.

[Kairomancer]

Jono1167, have you abandoned gizmo's guessing method?

[jono1167]

Jono1167, have you abandoned gizmo's guessing method?

Not at all. Unfortunately I am 700 kms from the nearest B&M casino.

Now they have just tightened up access to online casinos for Australian players. I simply have no way to play it and practice, unless I use Gizmos testing software. It’s incredibly frustrating....

[Kairomancer]

How many practice sessions have you played with his software?
What is your current win to lose rate?

[Ricky]

Happy New Year to all.

With this year being 2020 lets see if this thread can create 2020 vision and provide some productive ideas for the use of the B2B concepts. There has been mention of collecting statistics on the occurances of certain concepts like number of doubles formed in a cycle and number of repeats, gaps etc. Although these stats are good to know and apply to any given cycle its is just one aspect of the bet we should concentrate on. Other topics include money management, bet limits, progressions, session management and bet size.

As promised, attached is the Back To Basics RX (to be known as B2B moving forward)  I have create for public consumption. I won't go into too much detail on many of the parameters to be defined as most are not related to B2B but to my own money management coding which is based on Bret Morton's ROULETTE PLAYING TO WIN. There is an option to disable these parameters during your testing of B2B specfic parameters.

There are basic instructions on running the RX in the zip file and a workable set of options is defined by default. I suggest you refer to gordon's B2B betting methods - repeats from doubles and doubles from repeats etc and play the RX 1 spin at a time until you are comfortable the RX design is working as expected. If you notice any obvious bugs let me know and I will check it out. Best to create a document with steps used to reproduce and send to systemroulettebest@gmail.com. I'll try not to clog this thread with coding issues where possible and keep this for productive discussion on how we can play B2B. Any good ideas that cannot be defined from existing parameters may get added to the code and shared on the thread to see how it performs.

Enjoy
Ricky

[Ricky]

Hi

I have spent the last week re-reading 6th's '37 Back to Basics' thread. Plenty of ideas, many of which have already been tried and tested.

I thought I would post a few tables which were created using Ayk's fantastic tracker. Hopefully they might spark some inspiration....

I have been running some basic tests. Looking at the attached tables, I see clusters of numbers and gaps. Early on, the gaps are wide, but they start closing.... Pretty obvious. When is the most efficient time to bet on the gaps closing? Can this be exploited sufficiently? 

What Jono has done here is a very good approach to studying B2B. Breaking up the spin cycle allows us to gain an insight into how the flow of the spin cycle  is proceeding. Some cycles will create clumps of hits early on in the cycle and continue to expand sideways. So if you were laying your traps to take advantage of this happening within the cycle then you can get an early win.
Other cycles have wide gaps and create many islands of repeated numbers. So laying a trap for this to continue can also give you an advantage. Any given pattern has no guarantee of continue if into the future but unless you effectively use your chips to lay the respective trap you will not benefit.

Cheers
Ricky

[Ricky]

Here is my scorecard I use in a typical 2-3 hour session. I aim to play max 10 cycles of max 37 spins. Most cycles are over in 15 spins. Some go to 22 spins. In this sample one went to 25 spins where i took a small loss. I should have abandoned this one earlier. Over time experience tells you when to accept your loss es and reset for another opportunity. Occasionally I would increase my bet units from $1 to $2 next cycle to try and recoup larger losses. But this is the extent of my progression. I normally flatbet the cycle. However, chip placement can be a good replacement for progression. More in that later

Cheers
Ricky

[Irish88]

So even if with all this great information provided in this thread I still struggle to find a consistent way to profit.

Are you betting every number that is out in the last 8 spins?

What is the max numbers to bet?

Do you only bet when a pair or repeater has appeared?

If so then how long do you bet these numbers for?

Does the repeat number or pairs have to appear within a certain number of spins together? 8-9 spins? Say 5 appears and then appears 12 spins later are you now going to bet 5 and their two wheel neighbors? Or do you only do it if the repeat appears in a 8 spin window?

These are the points I struggle with. I feel like betting 16-24 numbers is to many which is usually mentioned. But I honestly don’t know.

[bigmoney]

I concur with irish 88
Well this is a great thread
But i as well struggle to make a consistant profit with it .

[Andrew]

Here is my scorecard I use in a typical 2-3 hour session. I aim to play max 10 cycles of max 37 spins. Most cycles are over in 15 spins. Some go to 22 spins. In this sample one went to 25 spins where i took a small loss. I should have abandoned this one earlier. Over time experience tells you when to accept your loss es and reset for another opportunity. Occasionally I would increase my bet units from $1 to $2 next cycle to try and recoup larger losses. But this is the extent of my progression. I normally flatbet the cycle. However, chip placement can be a good replacement for progression. More in that later

Cheers
Ricky

Hi Ricky

That looks interesting, the scorecards and screen in the background looks familiar too, you also play at Treasury?
Hope it’s going well.

Andrew

[Ricky]

As promised, attached is the Back To Basics RX (to be known as B2B moving forward)  I have create for public consumption.

I noticed that approx  30 downloads have been made of the RX so before I continue I just want to ensure that some have tried to execute the code in their RX software. I am aware some valued members of the thread do not have RX software which is available from :.uxsoftware.com. Without it you will not be able to follow along with the discussion so I strongly recommend you download a copy which is free for trial but only a few dollars for purchase. I guarantee it will be the best investment for any seasoned roulette system  player.

Many of you have already come out with some very reasonable questions about how to use the knowledge gained from the B2B thread. Although I can spend many posts trying to answer how I play it will be more useful if we can use the RX code to show what happens long term when you play the system. I use this information to help read my risk and know when most wins should come

Cheers
Ricky

[Herby]

Hi Ricky,
I have lots of "non RX" programming based on 37B2B ideas leading to the well known abyss.
I can and will compare your ideas and results. 
Don't hesitate, next week I'm again in horrible stress, so for me is the earlier the better.

Regards
Herby

[jono1167]

I noticed that approx  30 downloads have been made of the RX so before I continue I just want to ensure that some have tried to execute the code in their RX software. I am aware some valued members of the thread do not have RX software which is available from :.uxsoftware.com. Without it you will not be able to follow along with the discussion so I strongly recommend you download a copy which is free for trial but only a few dollars for purchase. I guarantee it will be the best investment for any seasoned roulette system  player.

Many of you have already come out with some very reasonable questions about how to use the knowledge gained from the B2B thread. Although I can spend many posts trying to answer how I play it will be more useful if we can use the RX code to show what happens long term when you play the system. I use this information to help read my risk and know when most wins should come

Cheers
Ricky

Ricky, thanks for sharing the RX file and for reigniting interest in this thread. I haven’t been into the office to download the software yet. This will have to wait until next week. Testing with AYKs tracker is essential. Repeats and doubles hit. Over the 37 spin cycle, numbers cluster together..... l believe this is where we should be focusing our attention.