37 back to basics

[junscissorhands]

Ok, now here comes the most difficult question.  Why should people win with it?  What is it that you feel makes it work?

Most people won't win with it. At least not longterm. Because they only look at a tree and not the forest.

The whole point is that a spincycle as a whole can be exploited every single time, it doesn't matter what your entry point is, it's all in the same equilibrium.

Caleb, you of all should have noticed few things in a cycle. Taking In account that you've seen millions of spincycles.

[6th-sense]

Most people won't win with it. At least not longterm. Because they only look at a tree and not the forest.

The whole point is that a spincycle as a whole can be exploited every single time, it doesn't matter what your entry point is, it's all in the same equilibrium.

Caleb, you of all should have noticed few things in a cycle. Taking In account that you've seen millions of spincycles.

Another good reply

[-Katalyst-]

Heh 6th - got to say well done with sharing this information - as previously said by a few others - you have done plenty - the ones that really want it will find it - be it  ‘Davids’ or more importantly their own way 

- times are changing - as majority are  collectively moving towards the 4th dimension - barriers are breaking - one of the greatest attributes one can have is to unlearn the old and be open to the new
.....new? - well it’s always been there - we are collectively as a whole awakening to further possibilities/frontiers

-and the ones that are often endlessly critising to no avail are prbly the very ones that are using these techniques/insights in their game plans

- anyway - the gist of these 2am down under ramblings were meant to convey that you and a few other generous posters are doing a great job in sharing ideas and positions freely 

[Mako]

Katalyst: very true, well said.

Jun and 6th-sense have always tried to help, tried to empower people to make improvements in how they "see" the game. 

And they do it for free, not out of some motivation to push a "mentor/coaching" angle for thousands of dollars...which both of them easily could.

Their advice is very much appreciated.

[6th-sense]

Heh 6th - got to say well done with sharing this information - as previously said by a few others - you have done plenty - the ones that really want it will find it - be it  ‘Davids’ or more importantly their own way 

- times are changing - as majority are  collectively moving towards the 4th dimension - barriers are breaking - one of the greatest attributes one can have is to unlearn the old and be open to the new
.....new? - well it’s always been there - we are collectively as a whole awakening to further possibilities/frontiers

-and the ones that are often endlessly critising to no avail are prbly the very ones that are using these techniques/insights in their game plans

- anyway - the gist of these 2am down under ramblings were meant to convey that you and a few other generous posters are doing a great job in sharing ideas and positions freely 

Thanku...a long long time ago all members use to be this way..not only me everyone...
I never new vaddis ie David
Hell the one on one I had with dyslexic all those years ago before he deleted his thread was good ...
Those days are gone

What junn says is true..

I’m not offering a system

But maybe a pathway to certain people who are bright enough to click

You don’t need 1 million spins

Only the understanding what a cycle and it’s end result and pathway to it

Steve’s odds of 37 to 1 still holds

Also the law of the third holds

Ying to yang

Both are right

[The General]

The whole point is that a spincycle as a whole can be exploited every single time, it doesn't matter what your entry point is, it's all in the same equilibrium.

Only in hindsight.  Unfortunately there's nothing that you can exploit.  Numbers that have not hit are no more likely to hit than numbers that are hitting.  If you disagree, then find a logical reason as to why they should or should not and explain why.
I hate to say it, but you guys are stuck in some very old ideas.

[Nimo]

Only in hindsight.  Unfortunately there's nothing that you can exploit.  Numbers that have not hit are no more likely to hit than numbers that are hitting.  If you disagree, then find a logical reason as to why they should or should not and explain why.
I hate to say it, but you guys are stuck in some very old ideas.

There is a finite amount of numbers. Yes 37 pockets. go ahead and count them if you don't believe me. ( You must like reading your own words )  There is a infinite number of spins, depending on how long you can sit at a wheel/air/video or computer before you urinate and defecate all over yourself.  The numbers have no choice but to repeat.  Notto's countless posts on the where the repeats happen.  Along with 6th-sense back to basics you can also see where on the layout they will happen. 

Maybe you can't visualize it.  Picture it this way.  You take 100 balls and place them in a bin, at the bottom of the bin there is chute in which there are 37 holes.  Release the balls and the balls wont fall equally at a rate of 2.7 balls per hole.  Some will have none, some will have 4 or more.  It doesn't matter how many times you refill the bin with the 100 balls, the distribution will never be equal.  Not even a million times over. 

You of all people with AP knowledge should be able to see that this effect is even more pronounced in AP play.  You are either a naysayer that looks down on everything, or really don't understand it.  I think you understand it better than most, you just like to be a naysayer. 

[gizmotron2]

>>I hate to say it, but you guys are stuck in some very old ideas.<<

All you guys are doing is running the next cycle or even the current cycle just to see if it is acting like it is continuing with the hoped for same hottest numbers. And if you can play that slowly, I mean continuing the results of 37 spin cycles at a time, then you can react to cycle effectiveness. Now if you think that this is logical then you might opt for easier ways to adjust to quicker occurrences of effectiveness. You've got 8 cycles to read in 10 hours of play. It would be nearly impossible to pick up on a trend from that small of a sample. It's like you did good or you did bad that day. That might actually work out on a year to year bases, if you are smart. The pay off is so dismal that it's hardly worthy of the effort.

[junscissorhands]

Never came on here to explain how and why.

But to give directions, yes. You can say it's an old idea, but people are often overlooking things which are right in front of them.

You don't need 1 million spins to find a way to beat it, only 37 will do. (euro wheel).

[6th-sense]

>>I hate to say it, but you guys are stuck in some very old ideas.<<

All you guys are doing is running the next cycle or even the current cycle just to see if it is acting like it is continuing with the hoped for same hottest numbers. And if you can play that slowly, I mean continuing the results of 37 spin cycles at a time, then you can react to cycle effectiveness. Now if you think that this is logical then you might opt for easier ways to adjust to quicker occurrences of effectiveness. You've got 8 cycles to read in 10 hours of play. It would be nearly impossible to pick up on a trend from that small of a sample. It's like you did good or you did bad that day. That might actually work out on a year to year bases, if you are smart. The pay off is so dismal that it's hardly worthy of the effort.

To be fair gizmo ..and after Denzie post on your thread ..
You have no idea ..
Please re read ..it’s one cycle
Multiple cycles? 8 cycles for 10 hours play maybe the way you teach maybe
Hottest number? Where did that come from? A cycle incorporates unhit unique and repeat
All of them
It matters not what is the hottest
It only matters only the nature of the cycle

[gizmotron2]

To be fair gizmo ..and after Denzie post on your thread ..
You have no idea ..
Please re read ..it’s one cycle
Multiple cycles? 8 cycles for 10 hours play maybe the way you teach maybe
Hottest number? Where did that come from? A cycle incorporates unhit unique and repeat
All of them
It matters not what is the hottest
It only matters only the nature of the cycle

Oh, magical thinking and the nature of just 37 spins. Yes, you and Dynzie are both dinged up. I'm laughing my A$$ off. You go to the casino and actually do this? I hope so. I don't teach people to guess based on cycles. I base it all on the results of the next few spins. You do know that randomness can change at any moment don't you? It even effects defective wheels and imperfections in dealer signature. Randomness is the most powerful effect on the table. And Dynzie is not the final word of what is happening. He's just a person that tried to adapt Turbo's depletion of uranium trick and FAILED! Now he is a proclaimed authority of Roulette and you are his lackey.

[denzie]

At least Dynzie isnt a loser for 20 years and still bankrupt,  scamming others with some fancy mumbo jumbo. SCAMMER !!!!!! 

[denzie]

And Dynzie is not the final word of what is happening. He's just a person that tried to ...

Tell the world you're a broke scammer. But hey......lil Gizmo......prove me wrong on MPR ..... shut me up and show what you got. Action speak louder than words...... 

[Blueprint]

This doesn't need to get personal, folks.  Stay the course.

[denzie]

This doesn't need to get personal, folks.  Stay the course.

Sorry...just need to clear some stuff. Carry on