Consistent winning bet?

[Bayes]

As I said before only people with 6th sence can win in all these negative expectation games.

And have you ever seen this 6th sense demonstrated? if not, what makes you think it exists?

Suppose you watched someone at your local casino win day after day, you don't know how they're doing it - you've inspected the wheels and analysed the spins, there doesn't appear to be any bias or conditions for advantage-play, and yet this person continues to win. Would your explanation be "6th sense" or something else? personally, if I had to choose, I would put it down to some kind of method, rather than psychic powers. If you can invoke a 6th sense to explain winning, then you're on shaky ground, logically speaking; you can hardly invoke logic to assert that no systems will win if at the same time say you can get around that by using a 6th sense.   

[Jordan]

I posted about the 6th sence, not because i belive that it exists.
But to explain to u that only with super and unnatural powers u can win a game that it isn t beatable with true logic......

please do not change my words....It was an example to explain to u that with maths and patterns it isn t beatable.

[flukey luke]

So if you have a lot of information, there is no reason why, in principle, you couldn't bet every spin (or nearly every spin). To do that, you would need a computer to track many events, but even without it, if the event is dependable, does it matter if you only get a bet every 30 - 40 spins?

Reading between the lines, I think this is what Victor's new tool is trying to achieve.
If it can consistently win at a quicker rate than any method I use, I will gladly use Victor's tool for as long as possible.
Here is where I am at. Personally, I don't like to bet on every spin, even flat betting. I find that it is too volatile for my liking. I am more than happy to wait for a trigger to appear which has the ability to enjoy a 'purple patch' or a 'clumping of wins'. Depending on how many different streams of data that I am able to work with because of time constraints will determine if I can get down enough bets to make it worth my while or not.
There are no guarantees in gambling, however, you can train yourself to be a winner. This is how I interpret Jordon's 'sixth sense' comment.

[Jordan]

You  can train yourself to be a winner only with AP.
all the others are Gambling Fallacy.

[flukey luke]

@jordon, you are the best fisherman on any gambling forum, but you 'aint reeling me in buddy. 

[Carlitos]

....... Ok Jordan, lett's hear the advantage play then..........??





Carlitos 

[Jordan]

Flukey
I really can t understand what u mean ...but I don t care either. U are free to spend ut time in searching ways in the gambing fallacy.

[Bayes]

@Jordan, you are the best fisherman on any gambling forum, but you 'ain't reeling me in buddy. 

I think I know what you mean... I could be wrong, but in my opinion Jordan is still here because he secretly hopes there is a way to win using systems - he's pretty sure that systems CAN'T win, but there are some niggling doubts. Correct me if I'm wrong Jordan, but I would guess you've done ok playing systems in the past, but they don't give you the psychological "comfort" that AP does (because the maths and logic say no systems can win - only physics). Maybe you've done just a well, if not better, using systems as you have using AP, after all, you've posted quite a few systems here and at VLS in the past. Systems don't offer any long-term guarantees, but they are relatively easy to play (no searching for the right wheels and conditions). On the other hand AP DOES offer the security of knowing you have a true long-term advantage, but it's much harder to find the opportunities.

Again, I could be wrong, but perhaps Jordan thinks if he can convince members that there is no hope for systems, then he will be able to kick the bad habit himself (and get rid of those last niggling doubts). Am I right? 

[Jordan]

U are NOT correct in the part that I may have doubts that we can win with systems...
I know 100% that no one on earth can win with systems.

I am here just to help you with any system or Advantage-play method.
I am here to correct you in some things that I might know better.
I am here to pass my time with a subject that I have completely explore step by step.

These are my intentions and the reasons why I am still here...

But the point is to win in roulette...and not try to understand why any of us is here...LoL

In all the forums there are a lot of fights...this is because if you are trying to beat something that it is unbeatable(like trying to make a hole in the water) your nerves are broken along with your hopes...
So the only way to express your anger is to start fighting with the other members...
I will just won t take any part of these fights because I am a lot wiser in this game...and a wise man (in a subject) is just observing and helping the others...

cu

[chrisbis]

U could freeze the water, and that would put a hole in it.

U could blow really hard, (really, really hard) and then U would have a hole in it.

U could drop/push a tube into water, then U definitely have a hole in it.


What am I doing here.....................

Showing U that things are possible, its only the impossible that takes a bit longer!

(its the engineer in me- sorry folks)

[albalaha]

U could freeze the water, and that would put a hole in it.

U could blow really hard, (really, really hard) and then you would have a hole in it.

U could drop/push a tube into water, then you definitely have a hole in it.


What am I doing here.....................

Showing you that things are possible, its only the impossible that takes a bit longer!


its the engineer in me- sorry folks)

Very well said chris. Pessimists should leave the forum outrightly.

[chrisbis]

Very well said chris. Pessimists should leave the forum outrightly.

Well not sure bout that Al.

Think Pessess keep Us all in check now and again
and maybe just maybe stop Us turning into full blown addicts.

I, like many I suspect, like a healthy mix of the two.
after all I live with a pessimal, but I still think she's gorgeous
and talented in many aspects,
and I keep her pessimism in check, like she calms my over Optimistic approach.

[TwoCatSam]

All

Had to laugh at "niggling doubts".  I guess I've had them and just couldn't name them.

Not to defend Jordan or assume he needs defending, but I do understand his analogy.  What he is referring to is the sticking of one's finger into water, withdrawing it and leaving a hole.

Will iron float?  Of course not!  Give me the iron that will not float, a hammer and an anvil and I will make iron float.  We all know how.  How foolish would we be to argue that point?

OK, I feel a pessimistic thought coming on, so I'll move on and try not to delete this!

Sam

[Jordan]

Continue to try making a hole in the water.
U are just losing your time...and the proof is that no one of you has found anything that can win....
So all are empty talks.

[albertojonas]

Continue to try making a hole in the water.
U are just losing your time...and the proof is that no one of you has found anything that can win....
So all are empty talks.

well, maybe that's your holly Grail Indiana Jones