Precognition - PROOF! results from MPR - the real holy grail

[precogmiles]

Fine.  Challenge accepted.  Bring your gloves.  There will be a lot of glove slapping.

IQ levels 

[Moxy]

Must have touched a nerve, Hmmm? Room temperature is not a compliment.

Bring your gloves as well.  It'll be a triumvirate of terse, tactical and titillating tussle.

[Joe]

@ precogmiles, just go back to your parroting of 1 + 1 = 3, and mudslinging.  It's what you know best.

You know, even if I proved to my own satisfaction that precog really works, I still prefer systems and working on them, because - as someone else mentioned - it's fun and makes you think. There is no opportunity to apply creativity or logic to precognition; it's mindless.

And the other thing you're overlooking is that there is the potential to create something which can be passed on to others, and earn what is essentially a passive income. With precog you will always have to work hard each playing session, you can never pass on your skills to anyone else, and when you die, the skill dies with you.

[precogmiles]

So this is why you don't want systems tested over a million spins.

And you have the audacity to claim we are the biased ones.

Again, IQ Levels are very interesting on this forum.

[winforus]

You know, even if I proved to my own satisfaction that precog really works, I still prefer systems and working on them, because - as someone else mentioned - it's fun and makes you think. There is no opportunity to apply creativity or logic to precognition; it's mindless.

And the other thing you're overlooking is that there is the potential to create something which can be passed on to others, and earn what is essentially a passive income. With precog you will always have to work hard each playing session, you can never pass on your skills to anyone else, and when you die, the skill dies with you.

You are overlooking the fact, that precognition could be applied to many areas of life, it goes far beyond roulette.

And yes, if you want to succeed in anything - you need to put in the work and the effort. System junkies, and people who look for get rich quick schemes, are beyond deluded that think that one day they will find the HG, that would allow them to print money without putting in any work. That's just not how life works.

Precog skill can actually be passed down and has already been - at least to me. Thanks to this forum and precogmiles - I discovered precognition. and applied the information that I learned. The more you practice, the more success that you gain, the more fun it becomes.

[Moxy]

You are overlooking the fact, that precognition could be applied to many areas of life, it goes far beyond roulette.

And yes, if you want to succeed in anything - you need to put in the work and the effort. System junkies, and people who look for get rich quick schemes, are beyond deluded that think that one day they will find the HG, that would allow them to print money without putting in any work. That's just not how life works.

Precog skill can actually be passed down and has already been - at least to me. Thanks to this forum and precogmiles - I discovered precognition. and applied the information that I learned. The more you practice, the more success that you gain, the more fun it becomes.

How far are we on alien telepathy?  I hear that's the next wave.

[winforus]

How far are we on alien telepathy?  I hear that's the next wave.

How far are you from getting banned? I hear that’s the next wave.

[Joe]

And yes, if you want to succeed in anything - you need to put in the work and the effort. System junkies, and people who look for get rich quick schemes, are beyond deluded that think that one day they will find the HG, that would allow them to print money without putting in any work. That's just not how life works.

You're tarring all system players with the same brush, but not all of them are lazy and looking for get rich quick schemes. For those who do make the effort and are successful, it only has to be done once. That was my point. If the system works there's no need to put in continuing effort as you have to for precog, because you have the algorithm. There are plenty of examples of people making this kind of 'passive' income, so it's not deluded to think that way.

Precog skill can actually be passed down and has already been - at least to me. Thanks to this forum and precogmiles - I discovered precognition. and applied the information that I learned. The more you practice, the more success that you gain, the more fun it becomes.

Yes you can teach others about precog and how to practice it, etc, but they still have to put the work in themselves to get any benefit from it. Once you have a successful system you could sell it if you wanted to, so you are transferring the results of your hard work and research to others, but you can't 'transfer' your skill in precog to anyone else. They have to put in the effort themselves. That's not an advantage but a disadvantage.

[ati]

Sadly the old saying "hard work will pay off" does not apply to roulette. And to many other things in life for that matter.

One can try precog/remote view, but the result is not guaranteed. Iain says in one of the roulette warriors youtube videos, that they have met many people who had been trying for years to get better at it, but they simply cannot do it, so his conclusion was that psychic roulette is not for everyone.

I have tried it for a year but I didn't see any positive results, so I've decided to work on a system instead.
What I don't like about psychic roulette is that in order to have positive result, you cannot be sad, too happy, excited, stressed, tired, distracted, scared, too confident, drunk, etc.

Of course I have spent (mostly wasted) many more years working on systems, and it may never pay off. I could even lose my sanity in the end But to me the "non-random" way of thinking that was shown on the forum many years ago is quite mesmerizing. I don't do the traditional approach of "what if I wait for this, then bet that with a 5 step progression, run it for a million spins and see the results." I understand the odds, probabilities, negative expectation and independence nature of spins quite well. But as soon as you realize that there can be dependent outcomes, and you shift your view from spins to events, there will be a lot of new possibilities. I can think for weeks about problems that needs to be solved without trying any systems.
The point of my rambling is that not all "system junkies" are the same. Even though none of us can show a consistent winner.

[winforus]

You're tarring all system players with the same brush, but not all of them are lazy and looking for get rich quick schemes. For those who do make the effort and are successful, it only has to be done once. That was my point. If the system works there's no need to put in continuing effort as you have to for precog, because you have the algorithm.

If you think it is possible to develop a system with successful algorithm - then you are deluded.

Have take in to the account all the time and energy that you put in while working on a system? What about all the other players that have done the same, not to mention those that lost a lot of money as well in the process?

You are one of the few exceptions - but the psychology for majority of system players, is identical to those that looks for get rich, quick schemes.

There are plenty of examples of people making this kind of 'passive' income, so it's not deluded to think that way.

You are mixing apples and oranges. You can't compare a person who has built a successful business, which brings him passive income, to a possible Roulette "system". In order to begin with - the foundation and logic behind as to why it would work needs to exist. For a "system" it certainly doesn't exist.

Yes you can teach others about precog and how to practice it, etc, but they still have to put the work in themselves to get any benefit from it. Once you have a successful system you could sell it if you wanted to, so you are transferring the results of your hard work and research to others, but you can't 'transfer' your skill in precog to anyone else. They have to put in the effort themselves. That's not an advantage but a disadvantage.

Even players that have used Roulette computers, had to put in the work. Not only on how and why Roulette computers work, but to be able to win discreetly without getting banned and caught by casinos.

It's very fascinating to hear this from you - given that you have a solid understanding of math, statistics, etc.

If you are looking for passive income - there are plenty of better and easier ways in which you can achieve this. I have already done so - so I speak from experience.

[winforus]

What I don't like about psychic roulette is that in order to have positive result, you cannot be sad, too happy, excited, stressed, tired, distracted, scared, too confident, drunk, etc.

That's exactly right. In order to have success with precognition, it requires you to raise your level of consciousness. Meditation, and other practices go hand in had. In turn, it forces you to work on yourself and improve your life in general. This is a big plus in my opinion.

Alcohol actually kills intuition and should be avoided or kept to a bare minimum. Proper diet and nutrition also helps, among with many other things.

If you would have spent all that time that you wasted on systems, on precognition, meditation, etc instead  - you would be crushing Roulette.

[precogmiles]

Roulette and passive income should not even be in the same sentence.

It is funny that some people think casinos are stupid.

Casinos hire real PhD statistians and expert quantitative analysts to help with there KPI and Profit and losses.

System players are delusional as hell if they think casinos will allow any game that can be beaten by mathematics in their casinos either online or B&M

Casinos will even cheat if they have to. This is a business not a charity.

[precogmiles]

You are overlooking the fact, that precognition could be applied to many areas of life, it goes far beyond roulette.

100% agree.

This is what they fail to understand. I have no intention of limiting this skill to just roulette.

[Joe]

It's very fascinating to hear this from you - given that you have a solid understanding of math, statistics, etc.

To be honest I used to be in the same camp as you regarding roulette systems, but I have seen with my own eyes how it's possible to win using systems, so I'm much more open-minded about it now (in fact, I'm convinced it can be done).
I already have skills built up from years of sports betting, so I think I have as good a chance as anyone of being successful.

And to keep a sense of perspective, most people not into roulette or gambling reading this thread would find this argument between systems and precog hilarious. They would think both camps equally deluded (perhaps the precogers having the edge here  )

System players are delusional as hell if they think casinos will allow any game that can be beaten by mathematics in their casinos either online or B&M

Blackjack was thought to be unbeatable by the casinos until Ed Thorp discovered there was an edge which nobody had previously found. And yes I'm aware of the big difference between roulette and blackjack, statistically speaking, but just saying.

[precogmiles]

And to keep a sense of perspective, most people not into roulette or gambling reading this thread would find this argument between systems and precog hilarious. They would think both camps equally deluded (perhaps the precogers having the edge here  )

And most people thought the sun went around the earth.

Blackjack was thought to be unbeatable by the casinos until Ed Thorp discovered there was an edge which nobody had previously found. And yes I'm aware of the big difference between roulette and blackjack, statistically speaking, but just saying

Systems are not AP, card counting and precog are.

but I have seen with my own eyes how it's possible to win using systems,

Then why don't you share this amazing discovery and that will end the discussion.