What spins should MPR use?

[Steve]

Explanation:

Option 1 spins are from real wheels uploaded by my players. I use only reputable profiles with 300+ spins each, so the spins are consecutive.

Option 2 spins are from random.org

Option 3 spins are from a reasonably high quality PRNG.

[nottophammer]

 If the general quotes Random.org who are we to disagree.
Turner gives R.org, but it'll make no difference, i'll say no more

Sudoku should i put muttley up?

[Steve]

Geez you talk shit Notto.

[Steve]

Ok looks clear enough, I'll start harvesting data from random.org. I think there's a maximum of 100k spins per day per ip, so i'll use a few proxies.

I'll let everyone know when we are using random.org spins.

[TurboGenius]

Looks like 10k is the most you can do at once, not sure on daily limits with the free service.
link:s://:.random.org/integers/

But still, how many spins would you need ?
What's your delay between spins and consider that if it were running 24 hours per day how many spins you would need. I'm sure there's plenty of time without any users playing - but even if there were - 10,000 spins is more than enough

[Steve]

Random.org spins are now being used.

The password for the previous spin file, so anyone can check the numbers are real and fair, is:
W#$Faeg#!!@#53@32sgrdr

The zipped spin file for the current spins is attached. I'll provide the password later when it is done.

[Steve]

No 10,000 spins is not enough to be assured the spin file doesnt repeat. I always use much more.

The generation url I'm using is link:s://:.random.org/integers/?num=10000&min=0&max=36&col=1&base=10&format=html&rnd=new

I change ip and get another 100,000 per day per ip. It's more than enough.

[Turner]

Cheers...

[ignatus]

What "professionals" play RNG anyway? All play at Live-tables? isn't this a bad idea ? i think so, ...:S

[Roulettebeater]

who's calling steve to use RNG isn't aware of the fact that RNG is not beatable!

ONLY HACKERS CAN BEAT IT!

[Logician]

What "professionals" play RNG anyway? All play at Live-tables? isn't this a bad idea ? i think so, ...:S

Yes, I understand your point. I only play roulette at actual casinos with actual wheels. With RNG, the system may adjust the winning numbers according to the bets that have have been placed. So if you are gambling with actual money, playing on RNG tables is a risky idea. Just my two cents on this issue.

[Steve]

I agree using rng is not a good thing, but we'll just use what people want. I think turbos rubbish about only being able to beat rng/random was actually believed by some people.

[precogmiles]

This RNG spin seems to be good. Just did a test account playing a basic system like martingale and got wiped out.

[TurboGenius]

I think turbos rubbish about only being able to beat rng/random was actually believed by some people.

I can beat RNG and I can beat any roulette wheel, so long as they are both putting out random numbers.
Now, stitching together sets of spins from a wheel/wheels that you don't even know are accurate, in a way that makes absurd things possible isn't very realistic.
Like I said - take a wheel that ended it's listing with 10 repeats on dozen 1 (not crazy) and now splice onto that another listing where dozen 1 shows 10 times in a row (not crazy) makes a list of number with 20 repeats in a dozen (not going to happen).
How can you put together spins from various wheels, not know the accuracy and then claim beating this is the only proof you'll accept ?  lol.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. If I every play there I'll use something good but not a HG for sure.

[Steve]

I can beat RNG and I can beat any roulette wheel, so long as they are both putting out random numbers.

No, you cant because it's random.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. If I every play there I'll use something good but not a HG for sure.

Random is random is random. Why would it matter to you?

I'm sure if I checked the log files and took the time to see what you did, I would find the same system you've described. Without looking you've already given enough information to know.

I dont buy that you played thousands of spins trying to rank high on MPR, and deliberately didnt use your HG. Then when your wins turned to losses, you left for parx and RS to apply your HG, where sessions are video recorded. Good way to hide your secret HG 

Yes we keep going in circles, because you're in a corner.