EC three way variant

[chrisbis]

Hi all.
Not sure if this particular variant has been posted before, or maybe its in another section, but lets lay the thread down and see what the response is.

I know many posters have shown Us their bet selection using the outside of the table, so called Even Chances.

I too play this system, but with a slight variation, so let me explain.

With only a marginal consideration for the DBL or the last colour spun,
i lay down my bet>>

2 units on Colour(black)
2 units on Even
2 units on 1-18 (low)
1 unit   on Zero (flat bet), or corner Zero, 1, 2, 3 or Split 1/Zero, or Split 2/Zero, or Split 3/Zero.


What I'm doing here is obviously covering a potential loss should Zero be spun during my Even Chance betting.

As each Even Chance wins, I drop them out and bank the winnings, but then (using Martingale of Fibonacci progression)
I'm using the winnings to fund the Even Chance progression that has not come in.

Half or any winnings are also being used to fund the Zero safety net Flat bet (or Corner or Split bet)

The theory is the winnings of the EC pay for the security of the Zero.

At first glance, and I play where you win early, and with little progression required,
it would seem that this system is infallible- dare I say- almost perfect.

You get the feeling, it a system that can not fail, (bet you never heard that before! )

Buts here's the science behind its ultimate, and probably eventual downfall.

As the system progresses, and your EC bets get larger and larger, you have to watch the value of your Zero safety net bet, since its payback cover can under value of the return your hoping for on your EC three way spread.


I'll will construct a table to show the relative bet slide verse payback for each Martingale progression step.

more to follow.

Just wanted to say, if you play very carefully, as we always have too!, you can increase your BR nicely, especially with low unit value (Typically - 0.10Ã,£/$/E)
Just wanted to share my thoughts.

[chrisbis]

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[esoito]

Hmmm...it's an interesting sort of 'mixed economy' idea, where a good crop funds a poor meat price on another part of the farm, so to speak.

Thanks for the thread. I'll follow it with interest.

[GLC]

I've been wondering when you were going to pull out the big guns.

Can't wait for more explanation.

Sounds like the kind of system I like.

George

[Twisteruk]

This looks very familiar 



Chris what do you mean, 1/Black/Odd/Low        (Would pay=21 on 13.5 units bet)
Altn  Winning outcome is-----------3/Black/Odd/Low       


1 and 3 are Red

Or did I misunderstand ?

[chrisbis]

Oh yer, bot colours mixed up. Thanx Paul, I'll alter it, was working from a guess not even memory- im flu'd up at mo, so poorly bad.

Have u post this system before then?

i thort I had seen something, but couldn't find ur post.
Apols if its hissing on ur threads, was just showing a brain storm of mine.

[Twisteruk]

Oh yer, bot colours mixed up. thanks Paul, I'll alter it, was working from a guess not even memory- I'm flu'd up at mo, so poorly bad.

Have you post this system before then?

i thort I had seen something, but couldn't find your post.
Apols if its hissing on your threads, was just showing a brain storm of mine.

Ah always have the Jab mate=Flu Free 

I posted somethin similiar ages ago, nah ure cool its a variant on a theme 


Keep testing and post ure results dude !


Remember its 35:1 not 36:1 !

[chrisbis]

So glad Ur around to mod me!!

the amounts are even better for that 3 Rd Phase.

Cause im sooo bad, would U read thro it again for me, and let me know if it makes sense?
Please. 

[chrisbis]

2ND edit.

Just a small addition to the EC Three way.

This IS needed to stop the rot on the progressive raise on the EC bets.

Let me explain, (well try to)

1ST Phase (Beginning of system)

Bet-------------------------------1-18>>>2units
Bet------------------------------Even>>>2units
Bet----------------------------- Black>>>2units
Bet--------Four Bet of Zero/1/2/3>>>1 unit
      Total Bet Value..........................7 units

Worst Losing Outcome--------------------27/Red/Odd/High      (Worse case outcome for this bet)
(Total Loss--7 units)

Best Winning outcome is------------2/Black/Even/Low     (which pays=31 on 7 units bet)
Altn  Winning outcome is------------1/Red/ Odd/Low       (which pays=17 on 7 units bet)
Altn  Winning outcome is------------3/Red/ Odd/Low       (which pays=17 on 7 units bet)
there are other outcomes.
____________________
2ND Phase (if loss at 1ST phase)

Bet -------------------------------1-18>>>4 units     (Martingale Progression)
Bet-------------------------------Even>>>4units            
Bet------------------------------ Black>>>4 units            
Bet-------- Four Bet of Zero/1/2/3>>>1 unit   (pays 8;1 which on 1 unit = 9 ( does not cover the EC 3 Three of 12)
so increase this Corner bet to 1.5 units            (pays 8;1 which on 1.5 units= 13.5)
   Total bet value...........................13,5 units

Notes. I'm sticking with the corner bet cause it covers the most amount of numbers/colours and gives a nice kick back should Numbers 1/2/3 come in , and it boosts the Even Bet  on 2, and boosts the Low bet on 1/3, also is Black should 1 or 3 hit)

Worst Losing Outcome--------------------27/Red/Odd/High       (Worse case outcome for this bet)
(Total Loss--13,5 units)
Best Winning outcome is ----------2/Black/Even/Low        (Would pay=37.5 on 13.5 units bet)
Altn  Winning outcome is-----------1/Red / Odd/Low         (Would pay=21.5 on 13.5 units bet)
Altn  Winning outcome is-----------3/Red / Odd/Low         (Would pay=21.5 on 13.5 units bet)
Altn  evens    outcome is-----------Zero                             (Would pay=13.5 on 25.5 units bet)
______________________
Now here's the change to the security bet.

3RD Phase (if loss at 2ND Phase)

Bet--------------------------1-18>>>8 units
Bet--------------------------Low>>>8 units
Bet-------------------------Black>>>8 units
Bet----------------Split Zero/2>>>1.5 units     (Pays 18;1 which would pay 27)
    Total Bet value...................25.5 units

Worst Losing Outcome............27/Red/Odd/High   (Total loss of =25.5 units)

Best Winning Outcome-------2/Black/Even/Low       (Which pays=75 units) (LOOK AT THIS RETURN ON A 25.5 unit bet!!!)
Altn  Winning Outcome--------Zero                             (Which pays=27 on 25.5 units bet)

I hope your all getting the idea of the progression here.
the next phase can go several ways, you can increase the EC three way bets,
or increase the Value of ONE of the EC bets, (either Low, Even, or Black( note you may change the Even bet to Odd, as this really would boost the return if your lucky to hit number 1 or 3)),
Or increase the value of the Split Zero/2 especially if you are monitoring this single number, or if Zero has not hit in last 18+ spins.

4/5/6TH Phases (if loss at previous Phase) would probably see me moving the Split Zero bet to a Flat Zero only bet, since that returns 35;1. tho there are other variations.

Maybe not so much as big guns, but small bang!

P.S. The .5 (half unit) bet value is only applicable if the table has 0.01unit option.

[chrisbis]

Think I have got it right now- must keep taking the tables.

Will any viewer of this post who finds an error please post a reply identifying the mistake.
I'm still new to this typing lark and find it difficult to check my work before posting it since the text page is so small.

Maybe in future I'll write it in Notepad and copy/paste in here!!

Cheers any one who visits.

please comment.

[chrisbis]

@Twistuk

Im not able to fully test, but i feel if one had an unlimited bankroll, i can see this only coming unstuck with table limits, so may need varying to suit the Casino in questions table limits.

Im still waiting to use my BR on the tipping tool test.

Any news?

[esoito]

@chrisbis

You wrote: "Maybe in future I'll write it in Notepad and copy/paste in here!!"

Yes!

That's always the best thing to do with a detailed post such as this very interesting one.

Then when you read it back to yourself out loud before you post it you'll not only pick up on bits that don't make sense, but also on any other discrepancies (spelling, punctuation, grammar, syntax and so on.)

[chrisbis]

You know how right U are.

Was my biggest post to date.

Only tinkered with this system, since i thought of it last week.

I have more advanced ideas on it.

I just tried it out on Play for Fun mode (since it doesn't matter what the wheel throws at u)
and i hasn't failed yet.

More testing, and advanced theory for it, to come.

I just worked out an even better, safer variant for it, so watch this space.

Just got to see what date it becomes a cropper!!

[esoito]

Maaaaaaate -- that is brilliantly conceived and extremely well presented.

Well done.

Er, no more playing on the road. We need to preserve you at all costs!

[As an aside, I'm glad you found the 'reading it out aloud' tip helpful. That was one of the strategies I learned during journalism training many moons ago. It's never failed me yet! ]

[chrisbis]

Maaaaaaate -- that is brilliantly conceived and extremely well presented.

Well done.

Er, no more playing on the road. We need to preserve you at all costs!

[As an aside, I'm glad you found the 'reading it out aloud' tip helpful. That was one of the strategies I learned during journalism training many moons ago. It's never failed me yet! ]

Best idea anyone gave me tonight Esoi. Thanx.
Still had to check it over when i pasted it in, cause the forum software indents at different places and some of the returns are not correct, but it is easier. Cheers.
Im glad u like it.
I like to put things down in a very methodical way, so anyone can read it (hopefully)
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