EC three way variant

[chrisbis]

Im re-reading now myself, and i still found a mistake!!

Can u increase edit time so i can alter the posting Esoito??

[esoito]

I'm re-reading now myself, and I still found a mistake!!

Immediate flagellation is called for.

Can you increase edit time so I can alter the posting Esoito??

Sorry. You'll need to ask Victor. He holds those sorts of levers.

[esoito]

*Note*
Now before you spin this bet, you should notice that the Zero bet of 1 unit (the security bet) will not cover
your EC bets valued at 45 units. Therefore, the Zero needs to be increased to 2units)

Yep. Good point.

My only immediate reaction is that some of the outlays can get a bit steep for those of a nervous disposition such as little moi..

That's the trouble with Martingales. 

[chrisbis]

Its ok, we self 'flag' in this part of the world.
I'll re-post and delete orig.

[chrisbis]

*Note*
Now before you spin this bet, you should notice that the Zero bet of 1 unit (the security bet) will not cover
your EC bets valued at 45 units. Therefore, the Zero needs to be increased to 2units)

Yep. Good point.

My only immediate reaction is that some of the outlays can get a bit steep for those of a nervous disposition such as little moi..

That's the trouble with Martingales. 

Think i mentioned somewhere, large BR is required, but in theory, this system has only 1 down fall- table limits .......... and lack of patience..........and counting. ( OO yes, that's 3 isn't it!!)

[chrisbis]

EC Three way 3Rd Variant Edit

1st Phase.
        Bet.                       Options/discription
  1 unit   on Zero        (the security bet)
  2 units on 1-18         (Low or High 19-36)
  2 units on Even        (or Odd)
  2 units on Black       (or Red)
=7units total bet

Say outcome is #30/Red/Even/High

Payout is Thus   1 unit on Zero      produces 0
                          2 units on 1-18    produces 0
                          2 units on Even   produces 4
                          2 units on Black  produces 0

Phase Summary- 7 units bet, result of #30 =+4win= Phase loss/win -3 Net loss/win -3
_________
2nd Phase.

   1 unit   on Zero.....................(steady for the moment)
   4 units on 1-18.....................(M'gale)
   2 units on Even....................(back to 1st phase level)
   4 units on Black...................(M'gale)
=11units total bet

Say outcome is #30/Red/Even/High    (Its a repeater table!)

Payout is Thus  1 unit on Zero      produces 0
                          4 units on 1-18    produces 0
                          2 units on Even   produces 4
                          4 units on Black  produces 0

Phase Summary- 11 units bet, result of #30 =+4win= Phase loss/win -7= Net loss/win -10
_________
3rd Phase.

   1 unit   on Zero......................(steady)
   8 units on 1-18.......................(M'gale)
   2 units on Even......................(back to 1st phase level)
   8 units on Black.....................(M'gale)
=19units total bet

Say outcome is #7/Red/Odd/1-18    (A trigger anyone)

Payout is Thus  1 unit on Zero      produces 0
                          8 units on 1-18    produces 16
                          2 units on Even   produces 0
                          8 units on Black  produces 0

Phase Summary- 19 units bet, result of #7 =+16win= Phase loss/win -3= Net loss/win -13
_________
4th Phase.

    1 unit   on Zero...................(steady)
    2 units on 1-18....................(back to 1st phase level)
    4 units on Even...................(M'gale)
  16 units on Black..................(M'gale)
=23units total bet

Say outcome is #31/Black/Odd/19-36    (A trigger anyone?)

Payout is Thus  1 unit on Zero       produces 0
                          2 units on 1-18      produces 0
                          4 units on Even     produces 0
                        16 units on Black    produces 32

Phase Summary- 23 units bet, result of #31 =+32win= Phase loss/win +9= Net loss/win-4
________
5th Phase.

   1 unit   on Zero.....................(still steady)
   4 units on 1-18.....................(M'gale)
   8 units on Even....................(M'gale)
   2 units on Black...................(back to 1st phase level)
=15units total bet

Say outcome is #21/Red/Odd/19-36    (Worse outcome)

Payout is Thus  1 unit on Zero       produces 0
                          4 units on 1-18      produces 0
                          8 units on Even     produces 0
                        16 units on Black    produces 0

Phase Summary- 15 units bet, result of #21 = 0 = Phase loss/win -15 = Net loss/win -19
________
6th Phase.

   1 unit   on Zero....................(tho still steady, a small increase here & u spotted an opportunity eh!!)
   8 units on 1-18....................(M'gale)
16 units on Even...................(M'gale)
32 units on Black..................(M'gale)
=57units total bet

*Note*
Now before u spin this bet, u should notice that the Zero bet of 1 unit (the security bet) will not cover

your EC bets valued at 57 units. Therefore, the Zero bet needs to be increased to 2units)
________
6th Phase. (edit on the Zero) (play it again Sam tribute phase)

   2 units   on Zero..................(increased sercurity to cover the Martingale bets)
   8 units on 1-18....................(M'gale)
16 units on Even...................(M'gale)
32 units on Black..................(M'gale)
=58units total bet

Say outcome is #1/Red/Odd/1-18    (trigger anyone? (Alright Dave?)) (anyways- bad outcome)

Payout is Thus  2 units on Zero      produces 0
                          8 units on 1-18      produces 16
                        16 units on Even     produces 0
                        32 units on Black    produces 0

Phase Summary- 58 units bet, result of #1 =+16 win = Phase loss/win -40 =Net loss/win -59
________
7th Phase.

     5 units on Zero....................(raise to cover the known expected Martingale progression + loses)
     2 units on 1-18....................(back to 1st phase level)
   32 units on Even...................(M'gale)
   64 units on Black..................(M'gale)
=103units total bet

Say outcome is #0 Zero

Payout is Thus   5 units on Zero    produces 180   ((5 x 35) +5)

Phase Summary-103 units bet, result of #0 = +180 win = Phase loss/win +77 = Net loss/win +18
________
8th Phase.

    1 unit   on Zero....................(reset to 1st phase level)
    2 units on 1-18.....................(reset  "  "     "         "   )
    2 units on Even....................(reset  "  "     "         "   )
    2 units on Black...................(reset  "  "     "         "   )
=7units total bet

Say outcome is #2/Black/Even/1-18        (best outcome from the EC 3 ways bet stakes) (Zero is best

outcome allround)

Payout is Thus     1 unit   on Zero    produces 0
                             2  units on 1-18    produces 4
                             2  units on Even   produces 4
                             2 units  on Black  produces 4

Phase Summary-7 units bet, result of #2 =+12 win = Phase loss/win +5 = Net loss/win +23
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So, i have tried to show u the new variation and some worse case senarios.
Food for thought?

[chrisbis]

Having now found out the deliberate flaw in my master plan,
i wish it to be known, that from now on, I will be modifying this here
lickle system to be betting on thus>>>>>

1;18
Odd
Black.
Plus my little Green Goblin friend, The beautiful Zero!!
Coming soon to a cinema near U!!
.............

With Marty progression, or a new progression I'm working on.

On paper it looks a lot healthier and wins more often than playing on Even.

1;18 plus ODD plus Black takes account of 32 of the 37 possible numbers (European wheel)

Which is some cover!!>>> 86.4% of the wheel.

(same goes if playing 1;18 plus Even plus Red)

If you use some of either your potential win, or your existing BR, to cover the Zero, either on a 0 flat, or a split derivative, the percentage cover of the wheel is even greater (89.18% cover)

[Jordan]

I see that u have an obsession with ur friend the zero.

[chrisbis]

I think U will find, that given time, U'll come to love and admire him too!!

Well he does bring the house down sometimes doesn't he.

[hoper335]

I like the green numbers too.  Easiest numbers to keep track of when you're watching multiple tables.


Ron.

[chrisbis]

Multiple tables!!!

How do u do that then ron, several computers or do U mean Bricks & M??



Thought it was only ladiessss who have
multiple tables

Cheers mate.

[atlantis]

Hi chrisbis,

I tried it as you recommended on black, odd and low EC's using a shortened 1-2-4 progression and always never higher than a 0.5 bet on 0.

On any EC win I went back one step and if an EC progression won OR lost on 4u I went back one step to 2u for next bet; in other words I never played higher than 4u on any of the EC's...

On any EC loss I went up to the next level of the 1-2-4 prog except if a 4u bet lost in which case, as stated before, I reduced to 2u for the next spin.

**However, I reset all EC's to starting amount of 1u when LEVEL or NEW HIGH**

Seems pretty good strategy to me

A.

[hoper335]

Always B&M.

I play the outside (dozens mostly) a lot, looking for the table with the best opportunity.  I'll also switch to the inside once in awhile, usually to bet on the 0/00.

[chrisbis]

Hi chrisbis,

I tried .............

On any EC loss I went up to the next level of the 1-2-4 prog except if a 4u bet lost in which case, as stated before, I reduced to 2u for the next spin.

**However, I reset all EC's to starting amount of 1u when LEVEL or NEW HIGH**

Seems pretty good strategy to me

A.

I follow each EC bet very carefully.

As each EC loses any given bet, or part of their progression, I increase on that EC that has lost,
then completely reset all/both/each (how ever U look at it) the other EC's to the starting point, which for me is a multiple of my Zero insurance cover.

So if my Zero bet it 0.50 units, then my EC's are 2 x Zero for my starting point, and 2 x Zero for my reset point.

For me, once the Individual EC has done its job, on what ever part of the progression its at, then I reset it.

To reduce BR  raid, one could always withdraw that EC that's finished its task, and concentrate on the EC that has failed and requires further progression.
But I never forget the Zero, U just can not ignore that baby, since, outside bets (unless playing on a French table) do not take account of anything falling in the Green Goblins lap!!