Ignorance is bliss

[Madi]

Caleb, why didnt you answer my question properly. You didnt like me saying you wouldnt know a discussion if you tripped over it, so have one

Do you not read everything? Do you look for a prompt in the text then go dig out a well worn gif "Mr Osbourn my brain is full"

It was a good question and you posted shit as a reply.

Try again....and read it carefully, because you just said "The Random Game" again
#How can the game be random if all wheels are biased to some degree and therefore, by design, cant produce random numbers, or a random game

Dont you feel that its a question

[The General]

LOL!  No.  Turner doesn't ask questions or talk about roulette on the forum.

[Turner]

I'm not sure as to what Turner's question really is and appears that Turner's not sure either.  Looks like trolling to me so I'll wait for him to ask a real question.  After all, can anyone anywhere point to any roulette question or answer that Turner has ever posed on a roulette forum??? 

Wow...its a simple question.
You say all wheels are biased
You say roulette is a random game
How can the output of all biased wheels be random. They are all biased (your words)
Sorry...have you never thought of that and have no gifs for it?
Its a simple question
Try to answer......I know you find it awkward joining in

[Turner]

Ok.....
If its hard....answer bit by bit

Q1. Do biased wheels produce random numbers

[nottophammer]

Turner he's in here some where

He's a thick as a plank of wood

[Turner]

Q1. Do biased wheels produce random numbers

simple Yes or no

[Turner]

LOL!  No.  Turner doesn't ask questions or talk about roulette on the forum.

Do Biased wheels produce random numbers?

its a question and its roulette related

[Turner]

embarrassing really



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[RouletteGhost]

I understand

Easy to understand

It’s random or it isn’t

[The General]

Do Biased wheels produce random numbers?

No, they are not truly random.

RNG's like the ones from Random.org are about as "random" as you can get.  Even they aren't "truly random" but they're soooo close that it doesn't matter and they can be assumed to be random.    If you need more information on how the numbers are generated there then take a look at random.org

[luckyfella]

Bias wheels produce non-random spins-------Caleb

What he is suggesting is

Unbias wheels produce random spins
Rng produce random outcomes

Since the both outcomes are random there is no possibility to get a positive edge

This means that knowlegeable AP players like him who have the mechanical engineering and physics knowledge of roulette wheels are able to exploit such bias wheels.

Inversely, since this is the ONLY way to gain an edge over the game there is zero possibility aside from physics for system play to win in likewise manner.

Sorry Caleb, you can spam on every thread and quote all the authoritative sources that do not make it a fact.

Repetition again and again(redundant) done with persuasive writing is an effective strategy to implant untruths and incomplete facts as absolute fact and truth, a psychological warfare used.

Your response is the usual juvenile "show us the proof" or ""show us the underlying method that we can test"

It won't happen and everyone including you know it. Not from dyslexic or vaddis or Turbo. Nobody is stupid.

For the benefit for the readers, the system has to be based on math, physics is not required. Not that the traditional AP guys are wrong, it's clear they don't know better

The best hint posted on forums comes from Turbo's post -
"Math beats a math game"
And the all important
"Random has limits"

If you can mathematically make sense of that last statement then you are on your way to consistently win at playing roulette.
For those of you who can't, I am sorry there's no other way other than math, that's the truth

And no, no one will reveal it nor sell this knowledge. It makes no sense to do that.

By extention of this logic, sellers are bullshitters.
For guys like Caleb who are willing to reveal their traditional AP knowledge to other players, be very sceptical
Sorry Caleb, I don't believe you

Last, yes this makes "math beats a math game" a mere claim no different from any other without the required proof

YOU find the proof for YOURSELF

The purpose of this claim is to point to the readers where to search, period.

[The General]

Cool.

The best hint posted on forums comes from Turbo's post -
"Math beats a math game"
And the all important
"Random has limits"

"In order for a number to hit twice it first has to hit once.

Deep stuff there!  Yes, Turbo's a real rocket scientist. 

Are you in the US too?

[luckyfella]

Cool.
Deep stuff there!  Yes, Turbo's a real rocket scientist. 

Are you in the US too?

No

About Turbo's quotes, that's the best effort without revealing
Few of us do get it
Very, very few though under 5 perhaps even less
If Turbo did not make those threads/posts NONE of us will ever get anything
That's the truth

[The General]

Luckyfella,

link:s://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/31625-defied-the-odds-of-roulette/

You should weigh in on the conversation.  Be sure to tell them about Turbo too!   They'll really love his wise quotes!

[luckyfella]

Luckyfella,

link:s://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/31625-defied-the-odds-of-roulette/

You should weigh in on the conversation.  Be sure to tell them about Turbo too!   They'll really love his wise quotes!

I will correct their inept discussion or anywhere it may be,
Professor or PhD counts for nothing

ONLY IF I am prepared to reveal the math behind it

It won't happen

Like it or not, it stays this way

Same with anyone in my shoe