Why not like AP players in forums ?

[Nimo]

Why do you operate a roulette forum?  Why not just an AP forum and ban all system play talk? 

There is such a thing as a stupid question.

I was brought up with the notion that there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. Thanks for clarifying.

So you are looking for new ways to win, however all systems don't work.  Contradictory, but its ok.
Only AP and metaphysical have any merit.  Got it. 

[Steve]

I was brought up with the notion that there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.

You were misinformed. Probably by someone trying to be nice and politically correct.  Questions can indeed be really, really stupid. They are usually asked by stupid people, or people who haven't been paying attention.

In your case, your question was stupid because it was rhetorical, but with poor understanding of reality. It's like me asking how long do roulette wheel tyres last. To be fair though, there have been much worse questions.

Thanks for clarifying.

Happy to help.

So you are looking for new ways to win, however all systems don't work.

Thats called a stupid comment. I never said all system don't work. I'm saying the rubbish already proven to fail doesn't work, so people should understand why, and focus on new approaches.

Contradictory, but its ok.

No, you just need to look further than 20cm.

Only AP and metaphysical have any merit.  Got it. 

More specifically, only methods that have a chance of changing the odds can possibly work. If you don't change the odds, you change nothing. 

Metaphysical? Paranormal? Supernatural?

If empirical evidence is against a belief, then the belief is wrong. You should probably do more research before making up your mind.

[Nimo]

I never said all system don't work

Please tell us which systems do work then.  computers, AP and spiritual/pot induced don't count as systems.  Since you have tested everything, you must know what works.  Explain it slowly though, some of us have trouble breathing and chewing gum at the same time.

[Steve]

Explain it slowly though, some of us have trouble breathing and chewing gum at the same time.

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[Steve]

spiritual/pot induced don't count as systems

32 red, maaaan..

This guy made millions

[Nimo]

32 red, maaaan..

This guy made millions

Best post on this forum, thanks for the laugh lol

[Scarface]

I get it, making the exact same bet selection with the same wager will eventually lose.  But there may be something to using probability theory to make better bet selections, since the selection isn't always a static bet one the same amount of numbers. 

Maybe there will eventually be mathematical evidence supporting this.  But as system players, not mathematicians, we could just stumble on something that works without being able to support with equations.

Although mathematics has come a long way, there is still so much that is uncovered.  There are still alot of what seems like very simple problems math cannot solve.  One unsolved problem is the  "moving sofa problem."  There is no mathematical solution for determining the largest size sofa that can be moved in a hallway with a 90 degree turn.  Seems simple, but has yet to be solved.

The "traveling salesman problem" is another.  A salesman wants to travel to several cities around the country, and return home in the shortest distance possible.  Mathematics has yet to develop an algorithm to solve a problem like this.

Alot of things that may seem easy to figure out, almost intuitive, remain to be unsolved in mathematics.

Because I can't throw out equations or mathematical formulas to prove something works, doesn't mean that it fails.

[Steve]

There is no mathematical solution for determining the largest size sofa that can be moved in a hallway with a 90 degree turn.  Seems simple, but has yet to be solved.

Its squishy. Push it. It will fit.

A salesman wants to travel to several cities around the country, and return home in the shortest distance possible.

Go to the furthest point first and work your way back. I do it all the time looking at properties. If theres a discrepancy it doesnt matter.

None of this relates to roulette.

But there may be something to using probability theory to make better bet selections

Better bet selections. Thats the right direction. But you can't do that with statistics. Roulette has cause and effect. Statistics is effect, not cause. Doesn't it make sense to focus on the cause?

[winkel]

Imagine someone would find something completly new how would AP-Players react:

some clues:
- If you don´t change the odds, ...
- There are still 37 pockets ...
- The houseedge will kill you ...
- I don´t understand pls explain more and more and more ....
- Do some more testing
- Math tells you can´t win in the long run
- Martingale is as old as the game (even if the strategy is flat bet)
- Your math is wrong
- You don´t understand probability
- I can´t see any difference to other systems ...
- Statistics are misleading
- It refers to the so called LOTT and that is a fantasy (even if it doesn´t)
- The poster is a scammer
- He is a systems seller
...

pls. add more boring same BlaBla to this list.

BTW: This is why forums don´t like AP-Players. You can´t reach their brain. Possibly they don´t have one.

[Bebediktus3]

pls. add more boring same BlaBla to this list.

I do not think, that there are AP common reactions maybe few, but they are true...
But you not wrote the main reaction - which is the question - how you reach advantage?

That is main and all other goes from it.
How I reach advantage - I can say - I know several pockets to which ball will not hit near to 100%. So for me, odds say - 1/34 and from here is an advantage and that I can easily demonstrate, maybe on the simple wheel, at home, but can.

Till now no one system player does not show me predictions, which overcome 3STD  or be less than 0.05 in chi-square test...

[winkel]

But you not wrote the main reaction - which is the question - how you reach advantage?

I answered that!
Did you read it?
Did any other AP read it?
Did anyone refer to it?

No, they just returned to one of the above mentioned statements. Or you returned to: pls explain it with 3 numbers.

I can predict 12 numbers which won´t appear in the next spin. Can you beat this? No? Then learn about probability. Do your Math studies.

Do you know what the advantage of AP-Players is and why they can´t afford free winning roulette-Systems?

Look here:
Option 1: Roulette Advantage Play E-book ($197)
Option 2: Advanced Techniques & Wheel Analysis Software (US$1,450)
add Option: that calculates ball speed and predicts the winning number. This version is normally $1250 when sold with the phone.
Automatic Online Casino Betting Bot (value $495)

[Bebediktus3]

I can predict 12 numbers which won´t appear in the next spin.

Let's test this on mine wheel and I will prove , that you are not right 

[winkel]

Let's test this on mine wheel and I will prove , that you are not right 

Your wheel is biased

By the way: HOW DO YOU reach advantage? Where is it written? Where did you proof? Did you test it over min 1 million spins? Test more because your size-sample isn´t big enough.

[Bebediktus3]

Do you know what the advantage of AP-Players is and why they can´t afford free winning roulette-Systems?

Look here:
Option 1: Roulette Advantage Play E-book ($197)
Option 2: Advanced Techniques & Wheel Analysis Software (US$1,450)
add Option: that calculates ball speed and predicts the winning number. This version is normally $1250 when sold with the phone.
Automatic Online Casino Betting Bot (value $495)

I do not know which books you have in mind and why you here write prices. I can't predict 12 numbers but I can very easily show that you also cant.
But I can predict 3 maybe 4 numbers where the ball will not stand. Maybe not in 100% but in 98% for sure...

[Bebediktus3]

Where is it written?

I simply that can show you. Show me what you claim - I will show what claim me