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Why not like AP players in forums ?

Started by Bebediktus3, Jul 21, 05:30 AM 2018

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Bebediktus3

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Jul 25, 09:55 AM 2018and pls comment when you read the whole post not every sentence that makes no sense during an explanation.
I nothing comment, i want to understand what you want to say, why you come to situation 19-18 and stop?
I do not see any advantage in this situation. We talk about the same too long. If your limit is only that 19-18 must cross to 18-19 and that is all - then no sense to talk - we not know when that will happen so we cant have benefit from that. If we can, then show how ?
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

winkel

Sp Nm W/L  =0 =1 >1 =2 >2  Adv bet                                                    =  BRoll
50 33 W    * End of Session                                                               +102
49 29 L     7 20 10  5  5  =2:  6 12 21 32 33                                         5    +66
48 22 L     7 20 10  5  5  =2:  6 12 21 32 33                                         5    +71
47 20       7 20 10  6  4  =0: 10 15 16 26 30 35 36                                   7    +76
46 19       8 19 10  6  4 
45 18 W     9 18 10  6  4                                                                  +83
44 13 W    10 17 10  6  4  =0: 10 15 16 18 19 20 26 30 35 36                         10    +47
43  6 L    11 16 10  6  4  =0: 10 13 15 16 18 19 20 26 30 35 36                      11    +21
42 11 L    11 17  9  5  4  =2: 12 21 22 32 33                                         5    +32
41 33 L    12 16  9  5  4  =2: 12 21 22 32 33                                         5    +37
40 32      12 17  8  4  4  =2: 12 21 22 32                                            4    +42
39 32      12 18  7  3  4 
38  9      13 17  7  3  4 
37  3 W    14 16  7  3  4                                                                  +46
36  5      15 15  7  3  4  =0:  3  9 10 11 13 15 16 18 19 20 26 30 32 35 36          15    +10
35  8      16 14  7  3  4 
34  1 W    17 13  7  3  4                                                                  +25
33 34 L    17 13  7  4  3  =2:  1 12 21 22                                            4    -11
32 21 L    18 12  7  4  3  =2:  1 12 21 22                                            4     -7
31 25      18 13  6  3  3  =2:  1 12 22                                               3     -3
30 24      18 13  6  4  2 
29 28      19 12  6  4  2 
28 25      19 12  6  5  1 
27  2      19 13  5  4  1 
26 29      20 12  5  4  1 
25  1      20 12  5  4  1 
24 22      20 13  4  3  1 
23 29      20 14  3  2  1 
22 23      20 14  3  2  1 
21 22      21 13  3  2  1 
20  0      22 12  3  2  1 
19 28      23 11  3  2  1 
18 29      23 12  2  1  1 
17 12      23 12  2  1  1 
16  4      23 13  1     1 
15 29      24 12  1     1 
14  6      24 12  1  1     
13  1      25 11  1  1     
12 29      26 10  1  1     
11 21      26 11           
10 17      27 10           
9 14      28  9           
8 29      29  8           
7 12      30  7           
6  7      31  6           
5 31      32  5           
4 33      33  4           
3 28      34  3           
2 27      35  2           
1 25      36  1           
-  -      37  0  0  0  0                                                                    0
There is always a game

ahlidap

Quote from: winkel on Jul 25, 09:46 AM 2018
So again: search for GUTCBA put numbers in and watch.

Where is that?
Links on "another" forum don't work anymore and forward to a page that doesn't exist anymore, with some link poiting to genuinewinner....

Does it got deleted, or just old links?

winkel

Here it is.

All merits go to KonFuSed
There is always a game

Bebediktus3

ok winning session, but in some places different numbers can change all.

So for me, all looks like luck.

How that is different say from such mine bets on spin one i bet nr 25 1 unit and after the win on second spin all bet on 27 because of 27=25+2 and after second hit I have 1296 - very impressive but how often such will be?
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

winkel

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Jul 25, 10:47 AM 2018
ok winning session, but in some places different numbers can change all.

What else should you answer. As long as you are not willing (able?) to study and learn "what is going on" you better bet on ECs. that is your size of understanding

second sentence of yours is just redicolous.
There is always a game

Bebediktus3

Quote from: winkel on Jul 25, 10:55 AM 2018What else should you answer. As long as you are not willing (able?) to study and learn "what is going on" you better bet on ECs. that is your size of understanding
Ok you are the greatest payer, then only one question - this way like you show now how you win - can do every, why you so smart player afraid to test your abilities on some EC player wheel ??
Where there is the reason ?
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

winkel

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Jul 25, 11:01 AM 2018
Where there is the reason ?

There is no need.

Now you can download GUTCBA take your wheel and test 300 billion spins. it doesn´t need me.
There is always a game

Bebediktus3

QuoteNow you can download GUTCBA take your wheel and test 300 billion spins. it doesn´t need me.
Thanks

Sp Nm W/L  =0 =1 >1 =2 >2  Adv bet                                                    =  BRoll
-  -      37  0  0  0  0                                                                    0
1 17      36  1           
2 24      35  2           
3 29      34  3           
4  5      33  4           
5 12      32  5           
6 22      31  6           
7 24      31  5  1  1     
8 26      30  6  1  1     
9  2      29  7  1  1     
10 26      29  6  2  2     
11 24      29  6  2  1  1 
12  0      28  7  2  1  1 
13 14      27  8  2  1  1 
14 12      27  7  3  2  1 
15 33      26  8  3  2  1 
16 28      25  9  3  2  1 
17 31      24 10  3  2  1 
18 32      23 11  3  2  1 
19 33      23 10  4  3  1 
20 11      22 11  4  3  1 
21 17      22 10  5  4  1 
22 12      22 10  5  3  2 
23 22      22  9  6  4  2 
24 23      21 10  6  4  2 
25 26      21 10  6  3  3  =2: 17 22 33                                               3     -3
26 18 L    20 11  6  3  3  =2: 17 22 33                                               3     -6
27  8 L    19 12  6  3  3  =2: 17 22 33                                               3     -9
28 28 L    19 11  7  4  3  =2: 17 22 28 33                                            4    -13
29  2 L    19 10  8  5  3                                                                  -13
30 19      18 11  8  5  3 
31 27      17 12  8  5  3 
32  8      17 11  9  6  3 
33 11      17 10 10  7  3  =1:  0  5 14 18 19 23 27 29 31 32                         10    -23
34 32 W    17  9 11  8  3  =1:  0  5 14 18 19 23 27 29 31                             9     +4
35 11 L    17  9 11  7  4                                                                   +4
36  9      16 10 11  7  4 
37 12      16 10 11  7  4 
38 20      15 11 11  7  4  =1:  0  5  9 14 18 19 20 23 27 29 31                      11     -7
39  3 L    14 12 11  7  4  =1:  0  3  5  9 14 18 19 20 23 27 29 31                   12    -19
40 16 L    13 13 11  7  4  =0:  1  4  6  7 10 13 15 21 25 30 34 35 36                13    -32
41 27 L    13 12 12  8  4  =0:  1  4  6  7 10 13 15 21 25 30 34 35 36                13    -45
42  5 L    13 11 13  9  4  =0:  1  4  6  7 10 13 15 21 25 30 34 35 36                13    -58
43 19 L    13 10 14 10  4  =1:  0  3  9 14 16 18 20 23 29 31                         10    -68
44 15 L    12 11 14 10  4  =0:  1  4  6  7 10 13 21 25 30 34 35 36                   12    -80
45 23 L    12 10 15 11  4  =0:  1  4  6  7 10 13 21 25 30 34 35 36                   12    -92
46  6 W    11 11 15 11  4  =0:  1  4  7 10 13 21 25 30 34 35 36                      11    -67
47 13 W    10 12 15 11  4  =1:  0  3  6  9 13 14 15 16 18 20 29 31                   12    -43
48 29 W    10 11 16 12  4                                                                   -7
49 30       9 12 16 12  4  =1:  0  3  6  9 13 14 15 16 18 20 30 31                   12    -19
50 33 L    * End of Session                                                                -19
First test
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

ahlidap

Bebediktus,
what I will write could be completely wrong, as I'm not very used to GUT (at least, yet).

I've downloaded and entered some spins on GUTCBA.
It simply alert on a possible crossing, meaning, left side of comparison is +1 than the right side.

This is not enough.
This does not tell if the game is following an usual / normal "way".
Decisions should be supported by other aspects, not only if (x > y) and (x-y = 1)..

You have to do 300km trip. High Way.
Average speed 100km / h.

If after 2 hours you made only 150 km, than you're going slower than expected. Don't call right now to reserve your lunch on the restaurant.
If after 2 hours you've made 250km, should you make the call now?


Again, I can be wrong with these statements!
;)

winkel

Ahlidap, you are right.

But bebediktus won´t care, because he is an AP and so he is trying to proof it wrong. As you can see he is not able to study and not willing to read the explanations.

Again: This tool is a Clinical Bet Adviser. It takes the principle rules and bets every crossing. An experienced player wouldn´t do.

example:
34 32 W    17  9 11  8  3 this is a hole. Stop betting if a hole appears.
38 20      15 11 11  7  4  =1:  0  5  9 14 18 19 20 23 27 29 31        these are double crossings. Don´t bet DC´s
41 27 L    13 12 12  8  4  =0:  1  4  6  7 10 13 15 21 25 30 34 35 36        this is just playing a Dozen don´t do, there is no positive odd
and many more statements to give. But it is senseless, he won´t understand nor accept.
There is always a game

Bebediktus3

Quote from: ahlidap on Jul 25, 11:59 AM 2018Bebediktus,
what I will write could be completely wrong, as I'm not very used to GUT (at least, yet).

I've downloaded and entered some spins on GUTCBA.
It simply alert on a possible crossing, meaning, left side of comparison is +1 than the right side.

This is not enough.
No matter if that enough or not. Main moment of all method - it keeps that past number influence to next numbers, but i know that it is not right. I thought before, that maybe method slight catch some bias elements, but looks that not.
I himself some time ago created something like the system, which has expectation sure higher than -2.7%, but it is based on bias elements and on something more. So i think, that GUT also has something, maybe slight it catches some bias, but , I think not enough.
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Nimo

Quote from: Turner on Jul 25, 07:18 AM 2018
OK smart-arse, tell me what the defect is with this wheel.

I know the answer, so you cant bullshit me





I guess its not enough spins to answer.
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Bebediktus3

Quote from: Nimo on Jul 26, 10:02 AM 2018I guess its not enough spins to answer.
matter not in spins. Say if about me  - I know this person personaly and think, that there is no place to talk what on his wheels are bad. Some defects he even made special, that videos will be more impressive...
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Steve

Quote from: Turner on Jul 25, 07:18 AM 2018
OK smart-arse, tell me what the defect is with this wheel.

I know the answer, so you cant bullshit me





Theres a negative bias likely between 31 and 3. Depending on rotor direction, there will be positive bias just outside this arc.
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