Why not like AP players in forums ?

Turner · Jul 26, 07:32 PM 2018

Quote from: Steve on Jul 26, 01:07 PM 2018
Theres a negative bias likely between 31 and 3. Depending on rotor direction, there will be positive bias just outside this arc.

I see why you said that but look a little closer. You will kick yourself when I tell you.

10 seconds....Caleb said he could spot a defect.

This puzzle has been up 2 days. He hasnt responded. He is baffled

It took me months of reading up on respected biased wheel books (not Caleb's BTW) to spot defects like-a-diss

RouletteGhost · Jul 26, 07:37 PM 2018

Quote from: Turner on Jul 25, 07:18 AM 2018
OK smart-arse, tell me what the defect is with this wheel.

I know the answer, so you cant bullshit me

id like to phone a friend

Bigbroben · Jul 26, 07:39 PM 2018

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 26, 07:37 PM 2018
id like to phone a friend

Turner · Jul 26, 07:44 PM 2018

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 26, 07:37 PM 2018
id like to phone a friend

Who will be Caleb, after you meet soon

RouletteGhost · Jul 26, 07:45 PM 2018

i must meet him so he can show me how an airball wheel can be biased

or flawed

Bebediktus3 · Jul 27, 01:43 AM 2018

Quote from: Turner on Jul 26, 07:32 PM 2018It took me months of reading up on respected biased wheel books (not Caleb's BTW) to spot defects like-a-diss

Reading books here cannot help. You simply must know, what you must see that wheel will be biased. Are three main kinds of biases, one most common, it possible recognize visually. Plus can be some visual noticiable wheel defects like physical violations ...
More - remember that there is not the system and are no some strong rules - every detect what see, what notice,

Every play bias very different. I am not bias player, but sometimes play something similar to that. I name that temporary or migrating bias, what really can be no real bias. I play that by one small reason - sometimes that give very nice profit with so small and simple efforts.

So what you name bias and what name as bias Caleb, can be very different...

winkel · Jul 27, 05:46 AM 2018

@bebediktus

did you further testings? Or did you stop because of winnings?

Bebediktus3 · Jul 27, 10:28 AM 2018

Quote from: winkel on Jul 27, 05:46 AM 2018@bebediktus

did you further testings? Or did you stop because of winnings?

Unfortunately, I lost 5 times with only one win. Not me of course - that program...

Bebediktus3 · Jul 27, 10:34 AM 2018

Sp Nm W/L =0 =1 >1 =2 >2 Adv bet = BRoll
- - 37 0 0 0 0 0
1 5 36 1
2 19 35 2
3 25 34 3
4 12 33 4
5 36 32 5
6 21 31 6
7 21 31 5 1 1
8 5 31 4 2 2
9 11 30 5 2 2
10 32 29 6 2 2
11 14 28 7 2 2
12 34 27 8 2 2
13 23 26 9 2 2
14 26 25 10 2 2
15 35 24 11 2 2
16 12 24 10 3 3
17 16 23 11 3 3
18 10 22 12 3 3
19 20 21 13 3 3
20 13 20 14 3 3
21 23 20 13 4 4
22 11 20 12 5 5
23 24 19 13 5 5
24 21 19 13 5 4 1
25 5 19 13 5 3 2 =2: 11 12 23 3 -3
26 4 L 18 14 5 3 2 =2: 11 12 23 3 -6
27 22 L 17 15 5 3 2 =2: 11 12 23 3 -9
28 34 L 17 14 6 4 2 -9
29 10 17 13 7 5 2
30 17 16 14 7 5 2
31 22 16 13 8 6 2
32 23 16 13 8 5 3
33 29 15 14 8 5 3 =0: 0 1 2 3 6 7 8 9 15 18 27 28 30 31 33 15 -24
34 13 L 15 13 9 6 3 -24
35 7 14 14 9 6 3 =0: 0 1 2 3 6 8 9 15 18 27 28 30 31 33 14 -38
36 23 L 14 14 9 6 3 =0: 0 1 2 3 6 8 9 15 18 27 28 30 31 33 14 -52
37 11 L 14 14 9 5 4 =2: 10 12 13 22 34 5 -57
38 29 L 14 13 10 6 4 =0: 0 1 2 3 6 8 9 15 18 27 28 30 31 33 14 -71
39 16 L 14 12 11 7 4 =1: 4 7 14 17 19 20 24 25 26 32 35 36 12 -83
40 34 L 14 12 11 6 5 =1: 4 7 14 17 19 20 24 25 26 32 35 36 12 -95
41 3 L 13 13 11 6 5 =0: 0 1 2 6 8 9 15 18 27 28 30 31 33 13 -108
42 1 W 12 14 11 6 5 =0: 0 2 6 8 9 15 18 27 28 30 31 33 12 -84
43 19 L 12 13 12 7 5 =1: 1 3 4 7 14 17 20 24 25 26 32 35 36 13 -97
44 11 L 12 13 12 7 5 =1: 1 3 4 7 14 17 20 24 25 26 32 35 36 13 -110
45 19 L 12 13 12 6 6 =0: 0 2 6 8 9 15 18 27 28 30 31 33 12 -122
46 29 L 12 13 12 5 7 =1: 1 3 4 7 14 17 20 24 25 26 32 35 36 13 -135
47 22 L 12 13 12 4 8 =1: 1 3 4 7 14 17 20 24 25 26 32 35 36 13 -148
48 21 L 12 13 12 4 8 =0: 0 2 6 8 9 15 18 27 28 30 31 33 12 -160
49 30 W 11 14 12 4 8 -124
50 36 * End of Session

Bebediktus3 · Jul 27, 10:36 AM 2018

Sp Nm W/L =0 =1 >1 =2 >2 Adv bet = BRoll
- - 37 0 0 0 0 0
1 27 36 1
2 23 35 2
3 8 34 3
4 2 33 4
5 19 32 5
6 16 31 6
7 23 31 5 1 1
8 12 30 6 1 1
9 2 30 5 2 2
10 31 29 6 2 2
11 34 28 7 2 2
12 18 27 8 2 2
13 33 26 9 2 2
14 17 25 10 2 2
15 33 25 9 3 3
16 9 24 10 3 3
17 1 23 11 3 3
18 15 22 12 3 3
19 13 21 13 3 3
20 12 21 12 4 4
21 6 20 13 4 4
22 27 20 12 5 5
23 15 20 11 6 6
24 31 20 10 7 7
25 31 20 10 7 6 1
26 11 19 11 7 6 1
27 29 18 12 7 6 1
28 23 18 12 7 5 2
29 20 17 13 7 5 2
30 30 16 14 7 5 2
31 25 15 15 7 5 2 =0: 0 3 4 5 7 10 14 21 22 24 26 28 32 35 36 15 -15
32 2 L 15 15 7 4 3 =0: 0 3 4 5 7 10 14 21 22 24 26 28 32 35 36 15 -30
33 3 W 14 16 7 4 3 =2: 12 15 27 33 4 +2
34 33 W 14 16 7 3 4 +38
35 5 13 17 7 3 4
36 32 12 18 7 3 4
37 22 11 19 7 3 4
38 27 11 19 7 2 5
39 7 10 20 7 2 5
40 5 10 19 8 3 5
41 13 10 18 9 4 5 =0: 0 4 10 14 21 24 26 28 35 36 10 +28
42 18 L 10 17 10 5 5 =2: 5 12 13 15 18 5 +23
43 3 L 10 16 11 6 5 =2: 3 5 12 13 15 18 6 +17
44 5 W 10 16 11 5 6 +53
45 27 10 16 11 5 6
46 7 10 15 12 6 6 =2: 3 7 12 13 15 18 6 +47
47 1 L 10 14 13 7 6 =1: 6 8 9 11 16 17 19 20 22 25 29 30 32 34 14 +33
48 6 W 10 13 14 8 6 +69
49 27 10 13 14 8 6
50 18 * End of Session

Bebediktus3 · Jul 27, 10:37 AM 2018

Sp Nm W/L =0 =1 >1 =2 >2 Adv bet = BRoll
- - 37 0 0 0 0 0
1 18 36 1
2 20 35 2
3 7 34 3
4 6 33 4
5 13 32 5
6 34 31 6
7 29 30 7
8 8 29 8
9 31 28 9
10 28 27 10
11 10 26 11
12 10 26 10 1 1
13 7 26 9 2 2
14 27 25 10 2 2
15 16 24 11 2 2
16 2 23 12 2 2
17 13 23 11 3 3
18 29 23 10 4 4
19 26 22 11 4 4
20 26 22 10 5 5
21 22 21 11 5 5
22 18 21 10 6 6
23 24 20 11 6 6
24 4 19 12 6 6
25 3 18 13 6 6
26 12 17 14 6 6
27 16 17 13 7 7
28 10 17 13 7 6 1
29 11 16 14 7 6 1
30 5 15 15 7 6 1 =0: 0 1 9 14 15 17 19 21 23 25 30 32 33 35 36 15 -15
31 2 L 15 14 8 7 1 =0: 0 1 9 14 15 17 19 21 23 25 30 32 33 35 36 15 -30
32 34 L 15 13 9 8 1 -30
33 12 15 12 10 9 1
34 12 15 12 10 8 2
35 24 15 11 11 9 2 =1: 3 4 5 6 8 11 20 22 27 28 31 11 -41
36 6 W 15 10 12 10 2 =1: 3 4 5 8 11 20 22 27 28 31 10 -15
37 5 W 15 9 13 11 2 +21
38 5 15 9 13 10 3
39 5 15 9 13 10 3
40 24 15 9 13 9 4 =1: 3 4 8 11 20 22 27 28 31 9 +12
41 15 L 14 10 13 9 4 =0: 0 1 9 14 17 19 21 23 25 30 32 33 35 36 14 -2
42 13 L 14 10 13 8 5 =0: 0 1 9 14 17 19 21 23 25 30 32 33 35 36 14 -16
43 11 L 14 9 14 9 5 =1: 3 4 8 15 20 22 27 28 31 9 -25
44 21 L 13 10 14 9 5 =1: 3 4 8 15 20 21 22 27 28 31 10 -35
45 28 W 13 9 15 10 5 +1
46 4 13 8 16 11 5
47 30 12 9 16 11 5 =0: 0 1 9 14 17 19 23 25 32 33 35 36 12 -11
48 10 L 12 9 16 11 5 =0: 0 1 9 14 17 19 23 25 32 33 35 36 12 -23
49 8 L 12 8 17 12 5 =0: 0 1 9 14 17 19 23 25 32 33 35 36 12 -35
50 8 L * End of Session -35

Bebediktus3 · Jul 27, 10:39 AM 2018

Sp Nm W/L =0 =1 >1 =2 >2 Adv bet = BRoll
- - 37 0 0 0 0 0
1 24 36 1
2 19 35 2
3 36 34 3
4 28 33 4
5 10 32 5
6 3 31 6
7 28 31 5 1 1
8 28 31 5 1 1
9 27 30 6 1 1
10 35 29 7 1 1
11 26 28 8 1 1
12 13 27 9 1 1
13 11 26 10 1 1
14 33 25 11 1 1
15 30 24 12 1 1
16 17 23 13 1 1
17 13 23 12 2 1 1
18 9 22 13 2 1 1
19 35 22 12 3 2 1
20 1 21 13 3 2 1
21 0 20 14 3 2 1
22 29 19 15 3 2 1
23 29 19 14 4 3 1
24 2 18 15 4 3 1
25 21 17 16 4 3 1 =0: 4 5 6 7 8 12 14 15 16 18 20 22 23 25 31 32 34 17 -17
26 33 L 17 15 5 4 1 -17
27 16 16 16 5 4 1 =0: 4 5 6 7 8 12 14 15 18 20 22 23 25 31 32 34 16 -33
28 31 W 15 17 5 4 1 +3
29 30 15 16 6 5 1
30 27 15 15 7 6 1 =0: 4 5 6 7 8 12 14 15 18 20 22 23 25 32 34 15 -12
31 27 L 15 15 7 5 2 =0: 4 5 6 7 8 12 14 15 18 20 22 23 25 32 34 15 -27
32 12 W 14 16 7 5 2 +9
33 33 14 16 7 4 3 =2: 13 29 30 35 4 +5
34 12 L 14 15 8 5 3 +5
35 33 14 15 8 5 3
36 6 13 16 8 5 3
37 12 13 16 8 4 4 =2: 13 29 30 35 4 +1
38 26 L 13 15 9 5 4 =2: 13 26 29 30 35 5 -4
39 23 L 12 16 9 5 4 =2: 13 26 29 30 35 5 -9
40 2 L 12 15 10 6 4 -9
41 36 12 14 11 7 4 =0: 4 5 7 8 14 15 18 20 22 25 32 34 12 -21
42 12 L 12 14 11 7 4 =0: 4 5 7 8 14 15 18 20 22 25 32 34 12 -33
43 17 L 12 13 12 8 4 =1: 0 1 3 6 9 10 11 16 19 21 23 24 31 13 -46
44 29 L 12 13 12 7 5 =1: 0 1 3 6 9 10 11 16 19 21 23 24 31 13 -59
45 34 L 11 14 12 7 5 -59
46 32 10 15 12 7 5
47 3 10 14 13 8 5 =1: 0 1 6 9 10 11 16 19 21 23 24 31 32 34 14 -73
48 15 L 9 15 13 8 5 =0: 4 5 7 8 14 18 20 22 25 9 -82
49 34 L 9 14 14 9 5 =1: 0 1 6 9 10 11 15 16 19 21 23 24 31 32 14 -96
50 11 W * End of Session -60

Bebediktus3 · Jul 27, 10:41 AM 2018

Sp Nm W/L =0 =1 >1 =2 >2 Adv bet = BRoll
- - 37 0 0 0 0 0
1 29 36 1
2 36 35 2
3 19 34 3
4 28 33 4
5 20 32 5
6 7 31 6
7 16 30 7
8 13 29 8
9 36 29 7 1 1
10 35 28 8 1 1
11 18 27 9 1 1
12 33 26 10 1 1
13 2 25 11 1 1
14 29 25 10 2 2
15 7 25 9 3 3
16 23 24 10 3 3
17 36 24 10 3 2 1
18 33 24 9 4 3 1
19 2 24 8 5 4 1
20 30 23 9 5 4 1
21 4 22 10 5 4 1
22 19 22 9 6 5 1
23 22 21 10 6 5 1
24 30 21 9 7 6 1
25 15 20 10 7 6 1
26 20 20 9 8 7 1 =1: 4 13 15 16 18 22 23 28 35 9 -9
27 21 L 19 10 8 7 1 -9
28 18 19 9 9 8 1 =1: 4 13 15 16 21 22 23 28 35 9 -18
29 10 L 18 10 9 8 1 =1: 4 10 13 15 16 21 22 23 28 35 10 -28
30 15 W 18 9 10 9 1 =1: 4 10 13 16 21 22 23 28 35 9 -1
31 4 W 18 8 11 10 1 +35
32 14 17 9 11 10 1
33 18 17 9 11 9 2 =1: 10 13 14 16 21 22 23 28 35 9 +26
34 5 L 16 10 11 9 2 =1: 5 10 13 14 16 21 22 23 28 35 10 +16
35 36 L 16 10 11 9 2 =1: 5 10 13 14 16 21 22 23 28 35 10 +6
36 8 L 15 11 11 9 2 =1: 5 8 10 13 14 16 21 22 23 28 35 11 -5
37 27 L 14 12 11 9 2 =1: 5 8 10 13 14 16 21 22 23 27 28 35 12 -17
38 9 L 13 13 11 9 2 =0: 0 1 3 6 11 12 17 24 25 26 31 32 34 13 -30
39 28 L 13 12 12 10 2 =0: 0 1 3 6 11 12 17 24 25 26 31 32 34 13 -43
40 18 L 13 12 12 10 2 =0: 0 1 3 6 11 12 17 24 25 26 31 32 34 13 -56
41 2 L 13 12 12 9 3 =0: 0 1 3 6 11 12 17 24 25 26 31 32 34 13 -69
42 5 L 13 11 13 10 3 =0: 0 1 3 6 11 12 17 24 25 26 31 32 34 13 -82
43 29 L 13 11 13 9 4 =0: 0 1 3 6 11 12 17 24 25 26 31 32 34 13 -95
44 2 L 13 11 13 9 4 -95
45 12 12 12 13 9 4 =0: 0 1 3 6 11 17 24 25 26 31 32 34 12 -107
46 7 L 12 12 13 8 5 =0: 0 1 3 6 11 17 24 25 26 31 32 34 12 -119
47 24 W 11 13 13 8 5 =1: 8 9 10 12 13 14 16 21 22 23 24 27 35 13 -96
48 18 L 11 13 13 8 5 =1: 8 9 10 12 13 14 16 21 22 23 24 27 35 13 -109
49 33 L 11 13 13 7 6 =2: 4 5 15 19 20 28 30 7 -116
50 3 L * End of Session -116

Bebediktus3 · Jul 27, 10:44 AM 2018

Simply all become not interesting. Spins are from an online wheel. I ran some mine program on the same spins and saw all the wins... in the same groups 50 spins...

Bebediktus3 · Jul 27, 10:50 AM 2018

Sp Nm W/L =0 =1 >1 =2 >2 Adv bet = BRoll
- - 37 0 0 0 0 0
1 24 36 1
2 1 35 2
3 26 34 3
4 33 33 4
5 18 32 5
6 11 31 6
7 12 30 7
8 14 29 8
9 3 28 9
10 19 27 10
11 26 27 9 1 1
12 28 26 10 1 1
13 19 26 9 2 2
14 17 25 10 2 2
15 0 24 11 2 2
16 11 24 10 3 3
17 28 24 9 4 4
18 27 23 10 4 4
19 22 22 11 4 4
20 36 21 12 4 4
21 22 21 11 5 5
22 22 21 11 5 4 1
23 35 20 12 5 4 1
24 21 19 13 5 4 1
25 11 19 13 5 3 2 =2: 19 26 28 3 -3
26 8 L 18 14 5 3 2 =2: 19 26 28 3 -6
27 15 L 17 15 5 3 2 =2: 19 26 28 3 -9
28 29 L 16 16 5 3 2 =0: 2 4 5 6 7 9 10 13 16 20 23 25 30 31 32 34 16 -25
29 15 L 16 15 6 4 2 =0: 2 4 5 6 7 9 10 13 16 20 23 25 30 31 32 34 16 -41
30 36 L 16 14 7 5 2 -41
31 35 16 13 8 6 2
32 26 16 13 8 5 3
33 30 15 14 8 5 3 =0: 2 4 5 6 7 9 10 13 16 20 23 25 31 32 34 15 -56
34 1 L 15 13 9 6 3 -56
35 35 15 13 9 5 4 =2: 1 15 19 28 36 5 -61
36 30 L 15 12 10 6 4 -61
37 2 14 13 10 6 4 =0: 4 5 6 7 9 10 13 16 20 23 25 31 32 34 14 -75
38 36 L 14 13 10 5 5 =0: 4 5 6 7 9 10 13 16 20 23 25 31 32 34 14 -89
39 31 W 13 14 10 5 5 =2: 1 15 19 28 30 5 -58
40 5 L 12 15 10 5 5 =2: 1 15 19 28 30 5 -63
41 6 L 11 16 10 5 5 =0: 4 7 9 10 13 16 20 23 25 32 34 11 -74
42 2 L 11 15 11 6 5 =2: 1 2 15 19 28 30 6 -80
43 8 L 11 14 12 7 5 -80
44 6 11 13 13 8 5 =1: 0 3 5 12 14 17 18 21 24 27 29 31 33 13 -93
45 31 W 11 12 14 9 5 -57
46 26 11 12 14 9 5
47 8 11 12 14 8 6
48 36 11 12 14 8 6
49 31 11 12 14 7 7 =2: 1 2 6 15 19 28 30 7 -64
50 30 W * End of Session -28

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