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Action numbers for 00 wheel

Started by RouletteGhost, Jul 24, 10:42 AM 2018

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iggiv

long time ago i created something like 40 charts for european wheels to test online. Live wheels. Something similar to "action numbers" of Patrick. If it works on one combination it should work better on different similar combinations I thought. Conclusion? It won't work. Period. Wheels are absolutely random, my friends. These patterns don't work on a long run. Any patterns. Any numbers. Be it 18, 22, 16 numbers to cover, whatever. On a long run the ball will drop where you did not cover it. If it is a sector or spread around all wheel. It doesn't matter, these patterns will lose on a long run. Any patterns. The best you can get is a zero minus house edge, but this is the best. Most likely your patterns will lose much more. Because these are PATTERNS.

iggiv

"If your plan doesn't work you have to come up with a new plan"


Taotie

IMO, all these action numbers are is a way to quickly play the bulk of numbers on the wheel, while at the same time spreading the numbers not played by individual pockets, or pair of pockets at most.

There are many ways you can accomplish this type of spread on the wheel. In fact not only can you come up with your own action numbers using 4 or 5 layout placements, but you can do it blindfold, which I suspect John Patrick did in the first instance.

Why do I suspect that? Because there is absolutely nothing special about this particular wheel spread.

It's Kindergarten stuff, really.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: Taotie on Jul 26, 02:39 AM 2018
IMO, all these action numbers are is a way to quickly play the bulk of numbers on the wheel, while at the same time spreading the numbers not played by individual pockets, or pair of pockets at most.

There are many ways you can accomplish this type of spread on the wheel. In fact not only can you come up with your own action numbers using 4 or 5 layout placements, but you can do it blindfold, which I suspect John Patrick did in the first instance.

Why do I suspect that? Because there is absolutely nothing special about this particular wheel spread.

It's Kindergarten stuff, really.

Oh, I agree

Just another way to lay chips on the forever negative expectation game

I’ve come to realize money management is what makes something work
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Jul 25, 09:41 PM 2018
Do you guys want some 00 wheel data to run your system tests?

Let me know I've got tons of it.  I've also got some biased wheel data from them that could be fun for you guys to mess around with.

What I want is for you to tell me what wheels are biased at resorts and/or
Jakes

This way I can give a real life review.

Keep in mind these are airball machines that you claim are biased. They speed up and slow down to deter VB players
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

iggiv

Quote from: Taotie on Jul 26, 02:39 AM 2018
but you can do it blindfold, which I suspect John Patrick did in the first instance.

Why do I suspect that? Because there is absolutely nothing special about this particular wheel spread.

It's Kindergarten stuff, really.

If you read his book you would not say such things. Brett Morton in another book came up with this kind of stuff as well.
This stuff is not working in real life in my opinion and from my experience. But at least they DO EXPLAIN about these layouts, why they came up with them. I wonder how people come with such conclusions....If you wanna "suspect" something at least get some info on it. What you call "Kindergarten stuff", in reality is something some  professional gamblers rely on. I don't know how in reality they make ends meet, but their ideas are clear, when you get the info.

RouletteGhost

the fact is no matter how we place the chips on the board we are all gamblers...one way or another

even AP or VB players are hoping for a win, its never definite

i do strongly believe that we can increase wins by betting against patterns that are not common

fallacy? maybe so....but it works
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

iggiv

Whatever patterns on a wheel you gonna play, whatever you call them, common or uncommon, this approach is going to lose on a long run. But you may win if you do it a couple of  times and stop. But usually it is not the case. Usually you are going to play, maybe win at the beginning, then repeat it till you lose. Then coming up with something else till it loses too.

iggiv

IT DOES MATTER HOW YOU PLACE CHIPS. One thing though you have to admit. Your bet selection SHOULD NOT BE BASED ON A WHEEL LAYOUT. Unless you play advantage play of course. If you somehow can track the ball or find bias then you play the wheel of course. But if you just play with randomly coming numbers you should avoid wheel patterns.

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 26, 08:12 PM 2018
the fact is no matter how we place the chips on the board we are all gamblers...one way or another



ego


I don't agree, I use the selection process with 22 numbers as even money bet including a Hedge Bet.
Take Brett Morton 22 numbers:

1-6
10-15
22-27
28, 29, 31, 32,

Then I put two units on each line and one unit on the corner.
So each time the Corner bet hit I break even or make a small profit and can repeat my bet.

Line 2 Corner 1
Line 1 Corner 1
Line 1 Corner 1
Line 2 Corner 1
Line 3 Corner 1
Line 4 Corner 2
Line 5 Corner 2
Line 6 Corner 3

So if you know how to strike or play choppy sequences with success you can win money.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Taotie

Ego,
You're playing a shitload of numbers, of course you are going to win money....sometimes.

ego

The difference is that I know when strikes will come and I jump on board.
Made a topic at the bet selection forum with 6K views where I solve the puzzle.

One state that includes strikes with Sputnik's March can be used for any even money situation or trading or sports betting.
I run a short sample just to show you the beautiful random bits.

The LW-Registry:

W L
W W L             
W W W W W W W W W W W L     
L

The actual results:

H L
W H L
H H H W H H W W W H W L
L



Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

This is silly, I run one more RNG test with RX to catch strikes using Brett Morton 22 numbers and is pretty incredible.
Maybe I will play this way tonight at my local casino, very good return on investment.

For does who don't understand that I use Regression Up & Pull.
Is a combination of regressing and using a positive progression.

Here is one more short sample.

LW-Registry:

W W W W W W W W W W W W W W L             
L

Actual results:

W W W W W H H W W W H W W H L           
L



Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

Test in one last time, start to get boring.
Here is one with no big strike and many small strikes.

LW-Registry:

W W W L               
W L               
W W W L             
W W L     
W W L     
W W W L
W L       
L

Actually results:

W W W L               
W L               
W W W L             
W W L     
W W L     
W H H L
WL
L




Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

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