Is proper bet selection really necessary?

[The General]

LOL....the dream team, team up to run ol' Winkel outa'town

Nobody is trying to run Winkel out of town.  We are attacking the fallacies, not the poster.

[Steve]

When you see people being misled.....say nothing. It might upset people.

[Turner]

Nobody is trying to run Winkel out of town.  We are attacking the fallacies, not the poster.

what a load of Bollocks....lol

[Steve]

what a load of Bollocks....lol

Is it all "poor winkel" if he has been misleading people? Neither me or caleb give a crap about winkel's preferences, and this is not in any way personal.

How about we just get back to what matters?

[RouletteGhost]

i have a philosophy.....its sorta of like politics and the media

when the "big wigs" all get together to attack one person and said person is not even trying to push their ways on you, that means its likely that there is merit here.

the puhers in this case are steve and caled with winkel on the defense

i hate to break it to them....but I am pretty certain Turbo and Winkel do just fine.......

their own personal agendas get in the way

[Steve]

take this sample for GUT 18/19

Spin 1 probability of a hit is 48.6486%
Spin 2 probability of a hit is 73.6303%
Spin 3 probability of a hit is 86.4588%
Spin 4 probability of a hit is 93.0464%
Spin 5 probability of a hit is 96.4292%
Spin 6 probability of a hit is 98.1663%
Spin 7 probability of a hit is 99.0584%
Spin 8 probability of a hit is 99.5164%
Spin 9 probability of a hit is 99.7517%
Spin 10 probability of a hit is 99.8724%
Spin 11 probability of a hit is 99.9345%
Spin 12 probability of a hit is  99.9663%
Spin 13 probability of a hit is 99.9827%
Spin 14 probability of a hit is 99.9911%
Spin 15 probability of a hit is 99.9954%
Spin 16 probability of a hit is 99.9976%
Spin 17 probability of a hit is 99.9987%
Spin 18 probability of a hit is 99.9993%
Spin 19 probability of a hit is 99.9996%
Spin 20 probability of a hit is 99.9998%
Spin 21 probability of a hit is 99.9999%
Spin 22 probability of a hit is 99.9999%

Nimo, you gave some very specific probabilities for individual spins.

Please give precise clear details on how you calculated these.

[Steve]

its sorta of like politics and the media

Nope, its fact vs fiction. You dont understand, its simple. Caleb and I get a little itchy when we see people spreading what is essentially "harmful bullshit", which to any reasonably educated and logical person is obvious.

when the "big wigs" all get together to attack one person and said person is not even trying to push their ways on you, that means its likely that there is merit here.

Really, really bad logic. According to you, any questioning of logic means there is likely merit. Pay attention, you might learn what motivates caleb and I to waste our time is distaste for complete hogwash, and making the truth clear.  Please stop distracting the conversation.

[RouletteGhost]

caleb has two agendas

1) be a condescending jerk because he gets off on it

2) scout the forums for members who will look at wheels for him

he does not REALLY care

[The General]

caled has two agendas

1) be a condescending jerk because he gets off on it

2) scout the forums for members who will look at wheels for him

he does not REALLY care

Geez Ghost,

That's pretty harsh.  I don't hate or have an agenda against anybody here.
By the way I'll be in town next week. First I have to meet Turbo early in the week...I think at Parx or somewhere near there.   
What about my steak dinner that you promised me?

[Steve]

be a condescending jerk because he gets off on it

Yes he can be. But that's not the full story. He has at least what is really not rare or unique knowledge (I'm referring to just the basics of roulette, nothing else). This knowledge, while fundamental and critical, is only rare on gambling forums.

Like me, he gets irritated when he sees flat Earthers who JUST DONT GET IT. They are running in circles bumping into each other, when all they need to do is just learn some of the basics and do proper testing. So he initially tries to help, and then gets attacked. Thats because people take it personally when you tell them they're wrong. Then rather than hit back by calling them names, he responds by toying with them.

He doesnt start as a c***. But we all know he can be one to the point of trolling. He is not trolling here. What he does elsewhere is not my concern. He is allowed to be a little smug. Its not against the rules. Understand he takes a lot more heat than he deserves. I know you dont see it that way, but perhaps you would if you understood what he was saying.

Now please, let's get back to what matters.

[Turner]

How about we just get back to what matters?

to who exactly? Seems to be just 2 people it really, really matters to.

Seems no one gives a shit when you look at all the new posts.

Why Winkel? Why are you both NEVER in Proofreaders posts. Thats all fallacy isnt it?

[RouletteGhost]

because its a threat to what they do

IN MY OPINION

you can tell me "you dont understand" but its my opinion

i believe methods like KTF and GUT help a player win by having more wins than losses...without changing the odds or math

[The General]

You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

[Turner]

because its a threat to what they do

IN MY OPINION

you can tell me "you dont understand" but its my opinion

well, for me, its a very naive way to communicate

Firstly, Steve has a very informative website on odds and payouts and computers. Its very well put together.

The URL is there for all to see, and if they want to go see it they can.

Ive seen nothing from Caleb, just some bad book he wrote in Crayon that ended up as recycled porridge.

Think it was called "Paper Pulp Fiction"

But when you keep on at people and invade their right to believe what they want to believe, you become a bully, or a troll, a Mormon , or the worse of the worse....a Vegan.

[RouletteGhost]

whats been done to winkel is nothing short of bullying

they use outside forums to constantly mock winkel

and for the most part winkel has been absent...its blatant....

we see it

going to those lengths to attack a method....hmmmmmmm