Is proper bet selection really necessary?

[Steve]

Thats good. But im basing what i say about gut on a lot more "testing and experience", than "how I think it sounds".

Its the same case with precog, but a higher degree of that isnt reliant on empirical evidence. For now. There is still empirical evidence, just not enough to be conclusive.

We each have only our experience and knowledge to go on. It varies between people, which why people disagree. But truth isnt based on opinion. Its based on what-is, backed by testing. Thats why i say what i say

[Joe]

Steve, the global consciousness project reminds me of Rupert Sheldrake's theory of Morphic Resonance, which is more about telepathy than precog. He's an interesting bloke and has set up several experiments on his website that anyone can take part in. link:s://:.sheldrake.org/research/telepathy

Pity that telepathy is useless for roulette though, unless the casino happens to be cheating you, then you could read their minds. 

[Steve]

Yes it's maybe more telepathy. At this stage i don't think we even understand what it is we're calling precog, and what might be happening. Either way my own experience with it, i believe is conclusive enough. The amount of times small events like thinking of someone moments before they call, then they call. Especially when i haven't thought of them in a long time. There's too much for me to dismiss. One day i'll write a book explaining everything I've learned, which I'm sure many people will identify with. If it leads nowhere, so be it.

[Steve]

One important thing about precog, i believe is usually overlooked, is the future is fluid and not set. If decisions aren't made and variables in place, precog is like watching a movie that isn't written. It can't happen.

I believe precog is a form of attaching part of yourself to a flow, not perceived by 5 senses.

Also predicting an arbitrary number may be too difficult.  Instead, predicting the area of winning number makes more sense to us. Anyway i'll leave all this for another time.

[winkel]

I read through the whole GUT thread. I have one question to ask though. We are waiting for 19 : 18 as a crossing and then bet on 19 numbers. Now why not 20:17 or 21:16.  20:17 will become 19:18, 21:16 has to become 20:17.  Why is 19:18 different from others. I am not able to get my head around this and any clarification would be appreciated.

The answer is probably too simple: There are no crossings.

[Tinsoldiers]

Or may be it’s not too simple. The basic premise of crossings I understand is that it has to happen. So 19:18 has to become 18:19.  But so is, 20-17 right. 19:18 has to happen from 20:17.  One number has to cross over from one side to other. Or am I missing something. I admire what has been written and the effort spent and the analysis of trots. But what am able to get my head around is why is crossing important than any other combination. Am sure there is an explanation for this

[winkel]

Will happen - nobody says that not, but when?

I here not see the difference between waiting XX spins where hit red and then bet on black... Simply are created two groups - one hit many (18) times and betting are on the opposite.
But all these waiting do not give any advantage. In situation 19-18 we can bet on 19 with chances to be hit 19/37 or bet on 18 with chances 18/37, but still, payment is less than our chances...

It is not htat simple. I wonder why nobody read what I did write explaining the difference in the same crossing.
18-10
17-11
16-12
15-13
14-14
do you see how this crsooing developed? It developed by 4 non-hits in a row. You have to decide, whether this trend is going on, so bet on 14 non-hits. Or you can decide to bet on the opposite that now this trend will be broken and bet on 14 once-hits.
Perhaps we need some more informations.

14-17
14-16
14-15
14-14
How did this one develop? It is the same crossing 14-14. Can you imagine that there is a difference between 14-14(first example) and 14-14(second example)?

second example which is not taken in consideration:
19-18 is first shown at spin 18 wiht 18 unhits (F0) hit in a row.
Here we have no information what could happen next.

Now look at this ( I have to take the third count as well it is F>1)
F0 F1 F>1
26 09 02
25 10 02
24 11 02
24 10 03
24 09 04
23 10 04
22 11 04
21 12 04
20 13 04
20 12 05
20 11 06
19 12 06
could this give us some hints what could happen next?
Perhaps we need some further informations.

This is only a question! But if you stick on 19-18 as an example and compare it to EC-betting I can´t help.

[winkel]

Lets take the last situation
19 12 6
we know where it came from (20 11 06)
but it could have come from these fre former counts
20 11 06 (and a F0 hit)
19 13 05 (and a F1 hit)
19 12 06 (and a F>1 hit)

Now lets have a look to what our count 19 12 06 can change
18 13 06 (if a F0 hits in the next spin)
19 11 07 (if a F1 hits)
19 12 06 (if a F>1 hits)

[winkel]

There are no secrets just a "not remembering" of what I already wrote, also in this thread!

lets take another example:
We all know the saying: in 36(37) spins 1/3 will not hit 1/3 will hit once and 1/3 will hit more than once.

Now lets talk about truth:
lets take this "wrong saying" and take a situation at spin 36 where there were only 12 unhit left.

This is the truth at spin 36:
(see first picture)
This is the truth at spin 37:
(see second picture)

[winkel]

...

Since when did "odds" become such a taboo word? I thought it was kinda relevant and important. Now if you dare say it (odds), the response is "blabla". That's because when odds are considered, we find a particular strategy is no better than random bets. That upsets some people.
....

If the word "odds" is the answer to every argument, if "odds" itself is an argument, If "odds" is the only argument, If "odds" is the holy truth, if your research has only to be on "odds" otherwise it is wrong.

Then is "odds" blabla

[winkel]

Different colored lines?

Another proof of your understanding of "proper discussion"
Don´t discuss what is shown in the graph, discuss the coulours, the size, the flies poo on it.

[RouletteGhost]

Winkel

Don’t waste your time

It is pointless for reasons you probably know

Just continue winning and those that use your principles will also continue to win

Not worth the energy justifying anything

[winkel]

What I wanted to show:

a crossing e.g. 15-14-8 can appear at different spins
it can have different origins where it comes from
it can only have 3 ways to go to

All this in combination and the statistic can help me make decisions
15 14 8  has these probabilities: 15/37 or 14/37 or 8/37. which is the highest probability?
15 unhit at this spin I registered 25 losses and 12 wins. What number has to grow?
How big can the difference between losses and wins at this spin with this 15 14 8 become?

BUT: If you just check 15-14 as a crossing, no matter AT what spin, no matter where it comes from, than ofcourse you are bound to the odds.

[winkel]

Winkel

Don’t waste your time

It is pointless for reasons you probably know

Just continue winning and those that use your principles will also continue to win

Not worth the energy justifying anything

I think this would be the best.

[Bebediktus3]

All this in combination and the statistic can help me make decisions
15 14 8  has these probabilities: 15/37 or 14/37 or 8/37. which is the highest probability?
15 unhit at this spin I registered 25 losses and 12 wins. What number has to grow?

Nothing from this can help to do the decision, because all that are results, but the ball hit to pocket because some reason and that reason is not previous results, but a place where ball finally will lose its kinetical energy and cant move more...