What is a "trot"?

[Joe]

I keep seeing this term in threads but have no idea what it means. Can someone please explain and give an example? Thanks.

[Steve]

I dont think anyone can give you an algorithmic explanation. It appears to be an arbitrary sequence that looks look a pattern, which exists only in the players head.

[Joe]

Thanks Steve. I got the impression it had something to do with Winkel's GUT system specifically, but I may be wrong.

[nottophammer]

                                                                     What is a "trot"?
I keep seeing this term in threads but have no idea what it means. Can someone please explain and give an example? Thanks.
Joe
LLLWLWLWWWLLLLLLLWWWW; Joe some call this a win registry
So
Spin 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,-35,36,37
Now spin 1 has to be the 1st non-hit, spin 2 could be a repeat

Here you see the distribution of the 37 starting non-hit



The non-hit count is GUT, just not showing the 1 hit and more than 1 hit.

Above we see in spins 1-10; 9 non-hits have hit and 1 repeat, that appears to happen more often than a distribution of 10 non-hit. Now the above shows 28 non-hit remain, the question is how many spins will it take to find one of the remaining 28 non-hit, 1 spin or maybe 6 spins? Here you see it took 3 spins.
So now 27 remain un-hit, again how many spins will it take to find 1 of the remaining 27 un-hit numbers? 1 spin or maybe 6 spins? We see it takes 2 spins.
Joe what has the “TROT “of the non-hits been since spin 10, or perhaps you need the word “DISTRIBUTION” of the non-hits? From spin10; answer 3, 2.
So up to spin 15 it’s been 3, 2. By spin 20 it’s been a DISTRIBUTION or TROT of the non-hits 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1.
Joe 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 is the trot of the non-hits or for you, distribution.
Okay Joe here’s 185 spins, what does the trot look like.



Here is a registry of the starting 37 non-hit



Joe imagine what the registry of the 112 sets of 185 spins could reveal, look at that checpoint box for 60 spins.
That registry is all you need to see how non-hits behave in 60 spins not 100's of spins

The above is from real live spins posted on this forum

Joe here are the 112 sets, see how many times all 37 have hit within 185 spins


Good or what, there's sooooooooooo much more, but you listen to General and Steve

[The General]

So you come to spin 20 and you have a number that hit's three times, a number that's hit two times, trot, trot, trot...  etc...

So which numbers have the greatest chance of winning over the next series of spins?
How has observing the distribution changed your chance of winning on the next spin or the next series of spins?

The answers:
The probability of winning has NOT changed at all! 
The reason is that the same number of pockets remain on the wheel from one spin to the next.   Therefore the probability of winning does not change from one spin to the next or over the next series of spins.   



Now here's what the normal distribution of the numbers does tell you.    It tells you that there are one or two toooo many numbers on the wheel because the house payout is short.  This means that if you were to bet the distribution of the numbers as they hit...and bet an amount that represented how many times each number hit..that you would LOSE in the long run!

[nottophammer]

Same old pic same old baloney.
So what if i'm at spin 20 and have a number that hit's three times, a number that's hit two times.
That means the game is playing perfect, 3 repeats. So 7 non-hit have hit, perfect.

[nottophammer]

chew on this while you look at your millions of spins
This from 20757 spins, could get this answer from 10000 spins, 15 non-hit average to hit in spins 11-40.

[RouletteGhost]

I don’t understand the need to beat up notto all the time on various forums

Why? Because he plays a certain way you don’t agree with?

If it works for him and he wins often (as per his sheets) then let him be

For him he found a way to win everyday by betting non hits after ten spins

Good for him I say.

To constantly feel the need to bash and attack him is a representation of yourself and not him

Good job notto I wish I had the time and patience to do what you are doing

Keep it smart with the stop loss and take your profit and restart 

[nottophammer]

Thats last set of 185 spins, not enough to show on all, but as you see well on the way to 15 non-hits so if theres 15 non-hits in spins 11-40, then theres the chance for Turbo's repeats at 1,5,25

Oh yeah next 1/37 bla bla bla

[The General]

Same old pic same old baloney.
So what if i'm at spin 20 and have a number that hit's three times, a number that's hit two times.
That means the game is playing perfect, 3 repeats. So 7 non-hit have hit, perfect.

But the numbers that have hit or that have not hit have the same chance of winning.   Can you provide even one logical reason as to why the probability should change?  

[Turner]

I don’t understand the need to beat up notto all the time on various forums

Because he is now attracted to Nottos confidence now Turbo has gone. He doesnt get it so he attacks it.

Bit sad really. I see Mike Urmantraut is telling a gangster not to draw his gun again.

What does that mean? Caleb obviously hasnt watched Breaking Bad

[The General]

Gambling message boards are for sharing ideas, knowledge, information and critique!  Without criticism then knowledge withers and dies on the vine and ignorance flourishes like weeds.  Sorry, just the facts. 

[Turner]

Gambling message boards are for sharing ideas, knowledge, information and critique!  Without criticism then knowledge withers and dies on the vine and ignorance flourishes like weeds.  Sorry, just the facts.

I would like you to answer a question RG has asked you many times without reply.


Why do you care so much?
You have your words about Biased wheel fluff which is totally unproven. Just words


Why arnt you out there winning?
why sit in forums berating everything everyone posts. Why do you give a shit?. Arnt you busy collecting spins from wobbly mythical wheels?

[Madi]

Why arnt you out there winning?
why sit in forums berating everything everyone posts. Why do you give a shit?. Arnt you busy collecting spins from wobbly mythical wheels?

Hey  guys he is on a two weeks holiday. He will start again dreaming for broken wheel looking at 60s vedio.

[Madi]

Gambling message boards are for sharing ideas, knowledge, information and critique!  Without criticism then knowledge withers and dies on the vine and ignorance flourishes like weeds.  Sorry, just the facts.

Where is ur ideas ??  Isnt it dumb idea to look for a broken wheel now a days ? Why on earth a casino give u this chance with such technological advantage they can check their wheel every minute?