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RNG verses Live Wheels.

Started by The General, Sep 18, 08:17 PM 2018

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Nimo

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Sep 19, 01:14 PM 2018
Only play against real wheels, not software roulette: Online casinos often use software roulette where there is no physical roulette. This is called RNG roulette, and isn’t roulette at all â€" it’s a slot machine, and they are impossible to beat. Some online casinos even used rigged RNG where the winnings of other players will determine whether or not you win. This is far from fair. If you play online roulette, stick to the webcam roulette wheels where you can see spins from a real wheel. :twisted:

This may have been true when online gaming first started coming online, however the ones that are still in business, are stick exchange listed, conduct business in countries with strict gaming laws.  They are the ones to stay with.

When I went to make my first large withdrawl, I had to be properly vetted. They wanted to make sure  I wasn't laundering money or any such sort of thing.  I ended up getting paid and now I make weekly large withdrawals without issue.

As for the RNG being rigged.  I have had spins tested by an independent third party auditor. Never an issue there either.

Don't believe old wives tales. 
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Bigbroben

Which online casino are you doing business with?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Nimo

Quote from: Bigbroben on Sep 19, 04:13 PM 2018
Which online casino are you doing business with?

William Hill
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Joe

Quote from: The General on Sep 19, 10:16 AM 2018
Nimo,

Turbo explained it on Gambler's Forum.  LOL!   ::)

Great! Got a link so we can all satisfy ourselves that it doesn't work?  ;)
And you still haven't explained why casinos don't seem to be concerned when their wheels show obvious bias after 30k spins.  ::)
Logic. It's always in the way.

Joe

Quote from: The General on Sep 19, 02:50 PM 2018
1. I've read the online agreements
2. I have AP friends that have had money seized several times.

There's ya problem. Don't play AP online, stick to RNG. I've never had a problem withdrawing and have never had any of my accounts seized.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: Joe on Sep 21, 03:27 AM 2018
There's ya problem. Don't play AP online, stick to RNG. I've never had a problem withdrawing and have never had any of my accounts seized.

Joe,

Do not mislead people.
You are supposed to be smart and already know the consequences of playing RNG

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Joe

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Sep 21, 03:41 AM 2018You are supposed to be smart and already know the consequences of playing RNG

RB, you're the one misleading people. There is no difference between RNG and spins from a real wheel. If you believe there is, prove it. The consequences of playing RNG are that I win. Why should I play on a real wheel when (a) it's much slower and (b) the chances that I will be banned are much higher given that the casinos think like the general : that you can't beat RNG, only real wheels using AP.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Joe

Quote from: Nimo on Sep 19, 05:10 PM 2018William Hill

Never played there myself, but I've heard a lot of negative reports about players being banned when playing their live wheels, even when they only win small amounts. Stick to RNG and you should be ok though.  :thumbsup:
Logic. It's always in the way.

ozon

Such a small assumption.
If every live wheel has bias and some numbers are more frequent in certain periods.
Why not, play, something trivially simple.
Play the hottest double street in intervals of 50 spins.
If some sector will have an advantage with time it will be visible.
I writes about sessions for 400 spins per day, here.
Playing a particular hottest number would certainly be more effective, but it would require more advanced tracking.

The General

Quote from: ozon on Sep 22, 06:22 PM 2018
Such a small assumption.
If every live wheel has bias and some numbers are more frequent in certain periods.
Why not, play, something trivially simple.
Play the hottest double street in intervals of 50 spins.
If some sector will have an advantage with time it will be visible.
I writes about sessions for 400 spins per day, here.
Playing a particular hottest number would certainly be more effective, but it would require more advanced tracking.

Why would you want to play double streets???  There would be too many random numbers bet with the biased numbers.  Playing double streets would wash out and negate the bias.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

ozon

I gave it more as an example, for sure the best option would be to choose 6 individual numbers.
Only a question about how many spins you can evaluate bias?
If we collect, for example, 5,000 spins from an online wheel and start playing 6 hottest numbers, it will be a good starting point.

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