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[Steve]

Ok technically having the house edge is not "cheating". It is their advantage, but it's the player's fault if they dont understand the payouts are short.

The technical definition of "cheating" has an element of being unlawful. Casinos are usually private property, so they can kick you out or ban you for any reason. When the casino is run by the government, usually they cant kick you out unless you're breaking the law (for example, South Africa).

I've dealt a lot with legalities with the roulette computers. In some places, computers are legal and not "cheating". But in other places it is clearly "illegal" and "cheating".

The bottom line is in any casino, if the casino notice you're winning a bit too much, or your behavior is suspicious, one way or another they wont let it continue. So again avoiding detection is very important.

[luckyfella]

The bottom line is in any casino, if the casino notice you're winning a bit too much, or your behavior is suspicious, one way or another they wont let it continue. So again avoiding detection is very important.

If the casino has the house edge, they will eventually get back their temporary losses

For a player who wins regularly yet do not violate any house rules, the ban clearly contradicts first para

My point is to highlight this contradiction
This widely used HE assumption is not accurate

The proof is in the terms and condition and the application thereof

[houseworx]

Hello mate!

can you explain this from mathematical and propability side for me like no roulette player?! I want to test your roulette things in another place!

"BET Every LINE (doublestreet) that hits, Until 4 Lines are bet.(No change of bets IF the Lines hit, before 4 lines bet!) NOW when 4 Lines bet, start progression/ DoubleUp for *Each loss*, until reaced a new high(No change of bet, when hit)... (Normally you reach a new high after 2-3 hits in a row) Then Stop/Restart game..(Begin anew bet 1 single Line etc..)"

so street is 1-11payout that means is 8.25% to win, so you betting on doublestreet that means you betting with 16.5% on win, can you tell further?!

maybe there is possibility that we can "chat" somewhere else like skype or something?!

BTW, I can test for you, many of your strategy's in longrun, if you will moderate and try to explain for me in another format, from percentage sides, and what you doing/waiting/increasing/downcreasing when

thanks, waiting for answer.

[ignatus]

Hi i can't explain the maths or probability, :s..

But as with all or (most) my old/new systems, you need to find the perfect progression, for this one, i got the suggestion to use a positive progression, (haven't tried that) but perhaps you can if you want,

Furthermore most/all my strategies are not long-term winners, (it's Hit'n Run) so it's much about monemanegement, so make it profitable-- That IS to find a good Bankroll/Stoploss/Wingoal etc...

So that's pretty much what i know? You must try to find the best -progression and moneymanegement- to make it work/make it profitable.

Cheers

[houseworx]

Hi i can't explain the maths or probability, :s..

But as with all or (most) my old/new systems, you need to find the perfect progression, for this one, i got the suggestion to use a positive progression, (haven't tried that) but perhaps you can if you want,

Furthermore most/all my strategies are not long-term winners, (it's Hit'n Run) so it's much about monemanegement, so make it profitable-- That IS to find a good Bankroll/Stoploss/Wingoal etc...

So that's pretty much what i know? You must try to find the best -progression and moneymanegement- to make it work/make it profitable.

Cheers

ofc I understand all what you saying about BRM, etc. thats what Im searching and trying to find.

but if your strategys are only for hit n run, so where is sense to play? okey, hit n run, but if your hit n run, dont work more than 51% of time, there is non sense to play at all! simple need to configure it, for that "profit per period" covers "loss per periods/sessions" from mathematical and propability side(i can help you with that) I understand how rng are working, he have limits for any deviation from "normal" for every winning chance.

im searching strategy, betting etc, who can survive even 52% of time(sessions) and even with 1 000 000 unit bankroll.

you are interested and have time(time after time) to chat with me, somewhere private place?!

[ignatus]

but if your strategys are only for hit n run, so where is sense to play? okey, hit n run, but if your hit n run, dont work more than 51% of time

Not true? most my systems old/new, with a proper mm/progression has a winrate around 70%, The "best one", i had 88% winrate, (That is, short term, with a set wingoal/stoploss) that was "Dragon's Treasure" played with +1/-1 progression etc, ..well? you have to test and find what you like,

im sorry i don't have time to talk private, if you have more questions, you can post in the threads , furthermore i don't know much more than i have already said? :S

[houseworx]

Not true? most my systems old/new, with a proper mm/progression has a winrate around 70%, The "best one", i had 88% winrate, (That is, short term, with a set wingoal/stoploss) that was "Dragon's Treasure" played with +1/-1 progression etc, ..well? you have to test and find what you like,

im sorry i don't have time to talk private, if you have more questions, you can post in the threads , furthermore i don't know much more than i have already said? :S

so okey, here:

dragon treasure is play with 8 splits it means split is 17-1 payout(like 18x 17 win and 1 initial bet it means 5.5% to win) you play 8 splits, it means 5.5% x 8 = 44% winning percentage for your game. till there OK.

but here start to confusing - "Procedure: BET the 2 unhit splits within ALL 4 Doublestreets within Dozen 1 and 3. As any Split hit, you re-bet the 2 unhit splits within that particular Doublestreet hit," there I dont understand you are betting on 2 splits, or 8 splits in general? and now you saying something about doublstreet, what is like street is 11-1 payout it means(12x +11 and initial bet) its 8.25% x 2 = 16,5%

so your base game in this dragon streasure is: 4x doublestreet (16,5% x 4 = 66%) or 8 splits (44%)?

maybe you have can advice simple another one of your many systems what have "monotone type game" what in your theory had minimum 60% winrate in longrun, with some kind of given betting progression, i can only wait "unhit" numbers.

i dont ask for unbeatable system for longrun, and what will never lose and "what are fighting to get every bet in profit or break even", but im searching for something, that can win like you said "6 of 10 games/sessions/periods(numbers of bets) that means you will win 60 000 000 of 100 000 000 bets.

[ignatus]

but here start to confusing - "Procedure: BET the 2 unhit splits within ALL 4 Doublestreets within Dozen 1 and 3. As any Split hit, you re-bet the 2 unhit splits within that particular Doublestreet hit," there I dont understand you are betting on 2 splits, or 8 splits in general?

I the beginning it's a progressive bet? You bet each DS hit two unhit splits (within doz 1 and 3) until all 4 DS have been hit, then 8 splits bet (2 splits Bet with each DS).....As you have all 4 DS bet , as soon as 1 split hit, you simply re-bet that particular DS two unhit splits... and so on, very simple.

(If you have more questions, about DT, perhaps post in in the particular thread..)

Cheers

[houseworx]

MAYBE, your strategy is something like simple betting on 66%(in roulette terms 4x doublestreet) and when other side numbers are not hitting some X bets, then you start to bet on other side 44%(8 splits) with your given betsize (progression) to cover every bet till break even point? and you letting max losing streak till something like 16 in row, till reset by new?



simple im very weak in this all roulette sleng term words... its for you, and other roulette peoples here all to understand is easy, for people who dont play roulette is not, sorry. it the same, like you will go to poker forum, and read there threads you will not understand they therminology and slengs

[RouletteGhost]

Ignatus, gets this further. Looks good

[Steve]

simple im very weak in this all roulette sleng term words... its for you, and other roulette peoples here all to understand is easy, for people who dont play roulette is not, sorry.  it the same, like you will go to poker forum, and read there threads you will not understand they therminology and slengs

It's simple. If the pill don't hit your repeaters, the dolly wont land on the felt you want, then you go back to the ATM = your system is crap.