@ Caleb regarding your biased numbers. Genuine questions

[Roulettebeater]

Caleb is a good player, he saw how i play..

Our methods have a few things in common.

[Lucky7Red]

Good for you share with others 

[Roulettebeater]

Good for you share with others 

well, i always tried to help, unfortunately lot of people think it is waste of time to focus on real wheel.
what should i do to those who like to be screwed by RNG machines.?

[Lucky7Red]

Oh ok then 

[Roulettebeater]

A friend of mine who has a computer and secretly using it at some land casino in Europe told me today that without progression it‘s not possible to make profits even with computer, he is used to bet 9 numbers, he told me that he gets sometimes lots of misses because the ball lands on the uncovered neighbour’s pocket, he said that he is using a progression and it’s working great.

He didn’t tell me what progression he using, do you know what progression is used by computer players ?

[The General]

A friend of mine who has a computer and secretly using it at some land casino in Europe told me today that without progression isn’t possible to make profits even with computer, he is used to bet 9 numbers, he told me that he gets sometimes misses because  the ball lands on the uncovered neighbour pocket, he said that he is using a progression and it’s working great.

He didn’t tell me what progression is it, do you know what progression is used by computer players ?

Roulettebeater,

A progression isn't required.  And furthermore I don't use a computer of any kind whatsoever.  When we were playing, we weren't using a progression other than one that was based on the quality of the playing conditions at the time of a specific spin.  We were doing our best to win as much as possible while staying under the radar. Progressions can not turn a negative expectation game into a positive one.  In other words if a system can't win flat betting then it can't win with a progression either.

[Roulettebeater]

Roulettebeater,

A progression isn't required.  And furthermore I don't use a computer of any kind whatsoever.  When we were playing, we weren't using a progression other than one that was based on the quality of the playing conditions at the time of a specific spin.  We were doing our best to win as much as possible while staying under the radar. Progressions can not turn a negative expectation game into a positive one.  In other words if a system can't win flat betting then it can't win with a progression either.

You are a VB player, your method can’t win flatbet under any condition, what you were doing is just fishing some opportunities, a computer can win under any condition, a progression can be used to deal with the misses that can occur due to calibration issues.

According to Steve‘s website, a progression can be successful in case the player has an edge.

I am not sure what does that imply, epecially for VB players

[The General]

That's simply not true.  We were largely flat betting.  We are indeed vb players and we do quite well flat betting.  We are quite skilled in our craft.  We won based on the accuracy if our predictions, raw skill and nothing else enabled us to win.

[Steve]

lot of people think it is waste of time to focus on real wheel.

It is far more vulnerable to exploit than typical RNG. It's the obvious choice.

A friend of mine who has a computer and secretly using it at some land casino in Europe told me today that without progression it‘s not possible to make profits even with computer

Nonsense. Does the casino only profit if players only make flat bets?

he told me that he gets sometimes lots of misses because the ball lands on the uncovered neighbour’s pocket, he said that he is using a progression and it’s working great.

There are two main ways to bet. Either the occasional single number, in which case you still have a strong long-term edge but anything can happen in the short-term, including lots of near wins. OR you use a betting team and cover like 15 numbers and win on almost every spin over a few spins (mixed in with other player bets), then leave. The second option is much quicker and easier. And like I keep saying there's much more to it but some people should stick with their systems, and dont bother looking into AP. It's a very different mindset.

[Roulettebeater]

It is far more vulnerable to exploit than typical RNG. It's the obvious choice.

Nonsense. Does the casino only profit if players only make flat bets?
There are two main ways to bet. Either the occasional single number, in which case you still have a strong long-term edge but anything can happen in the short-term, including lots of near wins. OR you use a betting team and cover like 15 numbers and win on almost every spin over a few spins (mixed in with other player bets), then leave. The second option is much quicker and easier. And like I keep saying there's much more to it but some people should stick with their systems, and dont bother looking into AP. It's a very different mindset.

Betting team ? And cover 15 numbers ?

How ? What do you mean with betting team ? How should it work ?

[Nimo]

Betting team ? And cover 15 numbers ?

How ? What do you mean with betting team ? How should it work ?

I play the same way online, yet Steve and Caleb would argue that I have no clue on what I'm doing.  Only they know the way. 

[Steve]

Nimo you've said many things that are incorrect and indicate you have no idea. First you criticize ap, now you are an ap? Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies.

[Roulettebeater]

Steve

So what ? Do i need a computer that costs >80k in order to place bet that consists of 15 numbers ?

That’s nonsense. This business model is totally shit !

What edge do I get from betting 15 numbers ? Why not 18 numbers ? Or 20?

Why betting more numbers is going to change my odds ?!

[luckyfella]

Oh dear $80k illegal computer
100,000 data bank

You need good eyesight, strong pair of legs and functioning brain

Wtf?!?!?!

[Nimo]

Nimo you've said many things that are incorrect and indicate you have no idea. First you criticize ap, now you are an ap? Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies.

Nope, not a AP.  I play online, with a team.  Multiple systems all at once.  Same idea as playing a team with AP.  As for cookies, I know my way around the kitchen so I can make my own.  As for becoming a AP, I value e my time too much to spend that much time going from casino to casino, country to country , worrying about detection or hours and hours of tracking.  Too much like a job, I spend 2-3 hours a day in my office, maybe another hour reading, the rest of the time I spend with my wife, kids and living my life doing what I want.