Unicorns Aren't Real

[nottophammer]

Ultimately everyone is responsible for their own knowledge. Let willfully ignorant people stay that way. People who want to learn will learn.

Summed up nicely

[Steve]

which has clearly damaged peoples view of what you say.

Anyone smart enough to consider the message alone and verifiable facts,  without personal opinions or emotions, would be unaffected.

All it takes is wanting the truth no matter what, and proper verification.

Not everyone feels the same way,  or is at the same stage of learning. I personally prefer truth no matter what. I refuse to lie to myself.

[MoneyT101]

Want to know whats crazy?

In your arguments with TG, he never denied those facts you and caleb stand behind.

From your arguments with ppl that claim to have a different way of looking at roulette no one denied your facts.  They even tried to have a mathematical explanation with you and caleb about how nobody can prove roulette is not beatable.

Your facts are solid and they are true and no one is denying they exist.

The problem and the arguments happen because your not listening to the other side; which agree to your facts.

But

still believe they can win using methods based on facts that you're not aware of.

Anyone smart enough to consider the message alone and verifiable facts,  without personal opinions or emotions, would be unaffected.

All it takes is wanting the truth no matter what, and proper verification.

Not everyone feels the same way,  or is at the same stage of learning. I personally prefer truth no matter what. I refuse to lie to myself.

which person is smart enough?  the one that argues about facts and cant have an open mind or the one who found a way and shared clues and didnt ask for anything in return from anyone but still got attacked.

You only know, what you know.   It doesnt mean there isnt more you can learn or that your right.

[Nimo]

Anyone smart enough to consider the message alone and verifiable facts,  without personal opinions or emotions, would be unaffected.

All it takes is wanting the truth no matter what, and proper verification.

Not everyone feels the same way,  or is at the same stage of learning. I personally prefer truth no matter what. I refuse to lie to myself.

This from someone who espouses all about the math on one side of his mouth while saying voodoo such as precognition can be viable with the other.  Where is the math there?  How can your customers take you seriously when you say bullshit like that?

At least Caleb is consistent with his message.

[Steve]

Where is the math there? 

In well-done trials for which ive done personally in groups, and others have done. They are statistically relevant but not enough. And thats why my work on it continues.

Pioneering work is better than what we can mathematically prove doesn't work, isn't it nimo?

How can your customers take you seriously when you say bullshit like that?

If i was concerned about image, i wouldn't publicize my work on precognition. And if someone is so ignorant and close-minded to not research and consider credible evidence about something, that's not the type of person i want to deal with. You mistook me for someone who gives a shit. I put logic and fact far ahead of what people might think... without considering what might make extra money. I can afford to be true to what i believe.  And if i couldnt afford it, I'd rather be broke but with integrity.

It's the same reason i talk about conspiracies. Because it's fact. I wont shut my mouth just to please people. That won't change the truth, will it?

At least Caleb is consistent with his message.

I only appear inconsistent to someone who doesn't know better.

[luckyfella]

Your facts are solid and they are true and no one is denying they exist.

That's why I said earlier, read (fill in your name) post and we know his knowledge limit

[luckyfella]

And if someone is so ignorant and close-minded to not research and consider credible evidence about something, that's not the type of person i want to deal with.

Say it to yourself

[luckyfella]

Where is the math there?

Good question

If anyone(steve included) can find any math posted by steve on any forum, post the link below pls

[Steve]

MoneyT you missed a lot there.

In your arguments with TG, he never denied those facts you and caleb stand behind.

How could he? They were simple truths everyone could understand. To deny them would be suicide.

But when it came to other more complicated points.... he made obvious contradictions he couldnt explain. He even showed his own poor understanding. Few people understood the relevance. And when it came to testing his theories, outside clearly flawed games, they fell flat. All he could do is duck and weave with vague excuses and explanations. Again few had the knowledge to see through his charade.

I suggest carefully read what i said, and see his responses. Its all there.

The problem and the arguments happen because your not listening to the other side; which agree to your facts.

No, his points were understood. He was just incorrect. And when it was explained, he had nowhere left to go except vague nonsense like 2 comes after 1.... and oh i won on parx which is realistic, i lost on mpr because i didn't use my system there etc. Again it's all there for anyone to read.

which person is smart enough?  the one that argues about facts and cant have an open mind or the one who found a way and shared clues and didnt ask for anything in return from anyone but still got attacked.

It wasn't about having an open mind. Carefully read the start of the turbo thread. You see i had an open mind. I gave him ample time and an open mind. The problem was he was speaking shit. But it's clear few people properly understood it, and what caleb and i were saying.

When someone has a poor understanding of something, it's easy to accuse others of being a "naysayer" or if being close-minded when they do understand it.

You only know, what you know.   It doesnt mean there isnt more you can learn or that your right.

I agree. But you're not understanding what I'm saying. Turbos claims and logic was full of holes and contradictions. They were not being understood by many members, so they assumed caleb and i had the problem of being negative nancies.

It has all been explained before. Everyone is free to believe whatever.

[Steve]

In all i waste a lot of time explaining things to people. It wastes my time. A narrow-sighted person would say it's to sell. If selling was my focus, I'd shut up, have a busier forum, get more traffic and more sales.

Taking hours to carefully explain things to perhaps 30 active readers? Its not a smart move for business.

I do it genuinely to help people. When i explain the matters, sales or money is not at all a consideration. At all.

[Roulettebeater]

Steve

Your „tired of losing system“ ad/pop up is disturbing the hell out of us.

Is there anyway to hide it permanently ?

Don’t ger angry, I wish you luck, though !

[Steve]

Just stay logged in and you never see it. Ill add something to say this.

[Nimo]

If i was concerned about image, i wouldn't publicize my work on precognition.

So what you are saying is that you don't care about your image and that you don't have 100% faith in your own product that you are selling, so you are instead trying to become the real Henry Sugar. 
Do you see this future roulette computer customers?  He doesnt have 100% faith in his own product, he has to look elsewhere. 

[Steve]

So what you are saying is that you don't care about your image

I care that people understand I'm honest. Smarter people know how to find out rather than believe lies. People understand that especially when they deal with me closely. Otherwise I don't give a f***. Is that clear enough for you?

and that you don't have 100% faith in your own product that you are selling

Never even remotely said that. Now you're being a dick.

I have more than enough faith in my technology to repeatedly demonstrate it publicly, and give it free for known neutral people to openly evaluate them - as I've done. My players use it almost daily. I watch from home. There's much more, but you're not interested in that. You just want to throw mud.

Do you see this future roulette computer customers?  He doesnt have 100% faith in his own product, he has to look elsewhere.

Nimo you're really being a dick now. I've had an interest in precognition for a very long time. I've said many times I believe it may well become the next generation of advantage play. I also have technology that sees through cards. Not IR, but using passive radiation from only the top of the card. Must mean my computers are useless.

As it is now, I'm close to retirement from roulette. Over 20 years. My interest in roulette will continue, as it will in precognition.

You know little about my life Nimo. I don't need any of this to be comfortable.

As for "future computer players", I just don't care if you or anyone doesn't like the idea of computers. Anyone interested can easily test them on any wheel they want. It hardly makes a difference if you want to discredit them. Just like others who attack me, all their lies count for nothing when someone tests my computers for themselves on any wheel.

Nimo showed a good example of how being honest makes you a target. Truth isnt convenient for everyone.

[Nimo]

I care that people understand I'm honest. Smarter people know how to find out rather than believe lies. People understand that especially when they deal with me closely. Otherwise I don't give a f***. Is that clear enough for you?

Never even remotely said that. Now you're being a dick.

I have more than enough faith in my technology to repeatedly demonstrate it publicly, and give it free for known neutral people to openly evaluate them - as I've done. My players use it almost daily. I watch from home. There's much more, but you're not interested in that. You just want to throw mud.

Nimo you're really being a dick now. I've had an interest in precognition for a very long time. I've said many times I believe it may well become the next generation of advantage play.

As it is now, I'm close to retirement from roulette. Over 20 years. My interest in roulette will continue, as it will in precognition.

You know little about my life Nimo. I don't need any of this to be comfortable.

As for "future computer players", I just don't care if you or anyone doesn't like the idea of computers. Anyone interested can easily test them on any wheel they want. It hardly makes a difference if you want to discredit them. Just like others who attack me, all their lies count for nothing when someone tests my computers for themselves on any wheel.

Nimo showed a good example of how being honest makes you a target. Truth isnt convenient for everyone.

I'm just showing everyone that this is what you do, you twist words to fit your own agenda under the guise of truth.  When someone else does it they are a dick, but when you constantly do it your halo glows brightly. 

People tend to see the truth, if you have to keep saying your honest then something is wrong there.