Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan

Let Me Win · Oct 11, 03:38 PM 2018

This was posted in 2009 on the old VLS forum.

I thought it looked interesting does anyone want to discuss it? It will work best when being for betting either Red or Black

This is a 'up as you win' staking plan.

Look at the 5 last outcomes in the betting registry (of the actual placed bets): You next placed bet should be equal to the number of w's you see in those 5 last spins.

(Note: for the first 5 bets, start with 1 unit and alter your bet based on the number of w's you get.)

Example:

Start with 1 unit

Win
w <-- 1 w, next bet is 1 unit again
Loss
wL <-- 1 w, next bet is 1 unit
Loss
wLL <-- 1 w, next bet is 1 unit
Win
wLLw <-- 2 w's, next bet is 2 units
Win
wLLww <-- 3 w's, next bet is 3 units
Loss
w[LLwwL] <-- 2 w's, next bet is 2 units
(notice how we only look at the 5 last results)
Win
wL[LwwLw] <-- 3 w's, next bet is 3 units
Win
wLL[wwLww] <-- 4 w's, next bet is 4 units

Etc.

Non explosive. Limited to 5 units as maximum bet.

atlantis · Oct 12, 07:37 AM 2018

Hi Let Me Win,

Thanks for re-posting stake plan. For the selection could use same idea for EC selection:

RBBBR----->bet 1 on B

R[BBBRB]----> W = bet 2 on B

A.

atlantis · Feb 14, 11:17 AM 2019

Quote from: atlantis on Oct 12, 07:37 AM 2018
Hi Let Me Win,

Thanks for re-posting stake plan. For the selection could use same idea for EC selection:

RBBBR----->bet 1 on B

R[BBBRB]----> W = bet 1 on B

A.

Came back to this today...
Did a few real number tests in which it seemed to handle mixed, series, and cross-combo results.
Used mild progression. Started playing with 1u bets - increased stake to 2u when behind 5x stake from highest plus result (-5 from highest bank)

r b r r b b r b b r b r b b b b b b b r r b b b b b b b = +10

r b b r b b r b b r b b b b = +5

b b b b b b r b r b b r r b b b r b b r r b r r b r r b b b b r b r b r b r b b r b b b r r b r b r b r r r b r r b r r r b r r b r b r r
= +5

b r b r r r r r b r b b b b b b = +5

b b b r r b r b b r r b b r r r r r r b b r b b r r r r b b r r b r b b b b b b b r b b b = +5

b b b b r b r b b r b r r b r r r r r b b b b b b b = +5

b r r b b b b b b b = +5

b r r b r b r r b r b r b b r b r r r r b b r r r r r b b b b r b b r r r r b r r b b r r r b b r b r b b r r r b r r r r b b b r r b b b = +5.5

r r b b b r b b r b b r b b r b b r b r b b = +5

Highest Bet = 2u

The first 5 r/b results from each session are tracking bets - bets commence on the outcome of the 6th spin.

Regards,
Atlantis.

buffalowizard · Feb 14, 11:28 AM 2019

Hi A,

Did you just pick red or black and stick with it throughout?

Looks excellent how it handles so many varied games

buffalowizard · Feb 14, 12:29 PM 2019

(USING 1 AND 2 INSTEAD OF W/L OR R/B, IT COULD COUNT FOR ANY EC)
Quick test just to see if I'm getting it right.
Just tried flat betting to start off. Also, I got betting straight from the off
A, would you increase to 2 units when -5?

1 - bet 1u on 1
1 - win , 2u on 1 +1
2 - loss, 2u on 1 -1
1 - win, 3u on 1 +1
1 - win, 4 u on 1 +4
2 - loss, 3 u on 1 0
2 - loss, 2 u on 1 -3
2 - loss, 2u on 1 -5
1 - win, 2u on 1 -3
1 win, 2u on 1 -1
2 loss, 2u on 1 -3
1 win, 3u on 1 -1
2 loss, 3u on 1 -4
1 win, 3u on 1 -1
1 win, 3u on 1 +2
1 win, 4u on 1 +5
1 win, 4u on 1 +9
1 win, 5u on 1 +13
2 loss, 4u on 1 +8
2 loss, 3u on 1 +4
1 win, 3u on 1 +7
1 win, 3u on 1 +10
1 win, 3u on 1 +13
2 loss, 3u on 1 +7
1 win, 4u on 1 +10
2 loss, 3u on 1 +6
1 win, 3u on 1 +9
2 loss, 2u on 1 +6
2 loss, 2u on 1 +4
2 loss, 1u on 1 +2
2 loss, 1u on 1 +1

atlantis · Feb 14, 01:27 PM 2019

Hi BW,

I'm not using that staking plan and I track the first 5 outcomes so your results:

1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

would give a profit of +3.

Highest bet = 1u.

A.

atlantis · Feb 14, 01:30 PM 2019

Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 14, 11:28 AM 2019
Hi A,

Did you just pick red or black and stick with it throughout?

Looks excellent how it handles so many varied games

The bet is made on the *dominant* EC from the LAST 5 results on a rolling basis. Fully automatic.

A.

buffalowizard · Feb 14, 01:43 PM 2019

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 14, 01:27 PM 2019
Hi BW,

I'm not using that staking plan and I track the first 5 outcomes so your results:

1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

would give a profit of +3.

Highest bet = 1u.

A.

Not sure how you're playing it...track 5 each time and then just bet once?

12112 bet 1u on 1?
22211 bet 1u on 2?
11112 bet 1u on 1?

atlantis · Feb 14, 02:11 PM 2019

My game session target is +5

Hope this explains it....

Track 5 results...
1 1 2 1 1 ------- 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = LOST -1

1 2 1 1 2 ------ 2 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = LOST -2

2 1 1 2 2 ------2 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

2's dominate so bet 2 = WON -1

1 1 2 2 2------1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

2's dominate so bet 2 = LOST -2

1 2 2 2 1------ 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

2's dominate so bet 2 = LOST -3

2 2 2 1 1------ 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

2's dominate so bet 2 = WON -2

2 2 1 1 2------1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

2's dominate so bet 2 = LOST -3

2 1 1 2 1------- 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = LOST -4

1 1 2 1 2--------1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON -3

1 2 1 2 1-------- 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON -2

2 1 2 1 1---------1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON -1

1 2 1 1 1--------- 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON +0

2 1 1 1 1---------1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON +1

1 1 1 1 1---------2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = LOST +0

1 1 1 1 2---------2 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = LOST -1

1 1 1 2 2--------1 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON +1

1 1 2 2 1---------1 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON +2

1 2 2 1 1----------1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON +3

2 2 1 1 1-----------2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = LOST +2

2 1 1 1 2-----------1 2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON +3

1 1 1 2 1-----------2 1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = LOST +2

1 1 2 1 2----------1 2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = WON +3

1 2 1 2 1----------2 2 2 2

1's dominate so bet 1 = LOST +2

2 1 2 1 2---------2 2 2

2's dominate so bet 2 = WON+3

1 2 1 2 2--------2 2

2's dominate so bet 2 = WON+4

2 1 2 2 2--------2

2's dominate so bet 2 = WON+5 TARGET

1 2 2 2 2-------- END

Highest bet = 1u

A.

atlantis · Feb 14, 02:19 PM 2019

I think I make slight mistake

and the result should be + 4. But hope you get the "rolling" method from the example

atlantis · Feb 14, 02:42 PM 2019

Basically, after you've tracked the first 5 results, it is then simply continuous betting each spin... I aim for target of +5. I decide to use a modified gr8player progression with 5 steps - but you can experiment and find one that you're comfortable with. Just use a MILD progression and this method, whilst easy to learn and operate, requires patience and some waiting. Always keep track of +/- at all times.
A.

buffalowizard · Feb 14, 02:48 PM 2019

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 14, 02:19 PM 2019
I think I make slight mistake and the result should be + 4. But hope you get the "rolling" method from the example

Yes got it mate. Simple when you get the hang of it. Def worth further looks

Mako · Feb 14, 02:55 PM 2019

Seems like it would be easy to code into RX or Excel, good necro post atlantis.

Mister Eko · Feb 15, 09:04 AM 2019

Atlantis

Are you playing flat bet, or when is the time when you change your bets to 2 units?

Thanks.

mommo · Sep 19, 06:13 AM 2019

Simply great positive progression system

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Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan