Goldking testingzone

[ignatus]

Ignatus,

an observation...  What if you re-ran the below but at only 250 spin intervals?

When I look at all the images, seems like most the time your ahead in the region of 250 spins.

Alright, that will be easy fix'd Good idea..

[ignatus]

Well? First test-session was not so impressive? or? +800u in 10 games? good or bad idk,...if you got better MM-plans, let me know..:s

(more testings needed)

calculating wins/losses

wins
400
400
400
400
400
400

losses
-400
-400
-400
-400

6/10 won (+400/-400)

Total=+800u


Here's the code (with a Stop after 250 spins)...

Code Select Expand

system "Goldking S9"

method "main"
begin
   while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7]
              to Record "progression" Data
  end

   Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
   split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
   to Record "Bet1" Layout
   
   Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
   split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
   to Record "Bet2" Layout


  while on each spin
  begin
 
if total spin count=250 each time
begin
stop session
end


If any number bet lost each time
begin
  add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end


If number 5 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 8 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 11 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 26 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 29 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 32 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

        if number 5 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
       end
     
      if number 8 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
        end

     
      if number 11 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 26 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 29 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 32 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end



    If number 5 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 8 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 11 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 26 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 29 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 32 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end





  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
   clear Record "Bet1" Layout
   clear Record "Bet2" Layout

   Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    End


  end
END

[ignatus]

OMG!  you know what this mean??? no, you don't? neither do i?. But all i can say, right now, im mind-blown, ...did 2 sessions, (both did very well) i don't even know what to say?...This is IT....  

I call this progression A21

It's 21 Steps,..gosh, gosh,..only two Steps 1,2 STOP

progression 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 STOP

Can you imagine? THIS is the Highroller's Grail? HAHA oh my god..... 

MoneyManagement-plan: 500u BR/Stoploss. *Here is the trick, you Don't have a wingoal, you play only until you wish to End session, (in this example 250 spins/Livespins) That would be a "normal" session, as TG once said, "i don't have a "wingoal" i stop whenever i want to"....

For me, this is my grail? i don't think i could do better with this betselection/find a better/more perfect progression....

Anyway, knock yourself out ,.. 

cheers

Test 1-10 (1u bets, Livespins)

calculating wins/losses

wins
16
679
556
815
583
435


losses
-500
-100
-200
-309

Total= +1975u





RX code:

Code Select Expand

system "Goldking A21"

method "main"
begin
   while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2]
              to Record "progression" Data
  end

   Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
   split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
   to Record "Bet1" Layout
   
   Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
   split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
   to Record "Bet2" Layout


  while on each spin
  begin
 
if total spin count=250 each time
begin
stop session
end


If any number bet lost each time
begin
  add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end


If number 5 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 8 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 11 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 26 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 29 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 32 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

        if number 5 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
       end
     
      if number 8 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
        end

     
      if number 11 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 26 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 29 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 32 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end



    If number 5 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 8 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 11 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 26 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 29 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 32 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end





  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
   clear Record "Bet1" Layout
   clear Record "Bet2" Layout

   Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    End


  end
END

[Irish88]

Do you still wait for a hit on one of the core numbers(5,8,11) before you begin betting with this new progression?

[ignatus]

Do you still wait for a hit on one of the core numbers(5,8,11) before you begin betting with this new progression?

Yes, that's the trigger to place bets

[ignatus]

Well now, ran a third test with the "A21" progression, and had a major loss . Alright....so? Was this the End? no? Again, my wisdom came true- "USE a SHORT, but AGRESSIVE Negative progression" ey? How is it possible to turn a losing session into a winner? well, i did it.... point IS -There is no use chasing a losing Bet. A new wisdom "if it's gonna lose, it's gonna lose, no matter what progression you use", so? Let it lose.(cut that bastard, let it go) ...But then "when it's gonna win it's gonna win, Big" This is also true, FOR THIS progression, it's 18 Steps now;

I call it "The X9-progression"

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 STOP

Furthermore, another interesting thing-- A 500u BR IS *too small* for this bet. A minimum BR of 1000u is needed, Why? Because, as you can see from my result, using a 500u- BR you would have *4* Total losses from this session 4*(-500u) BUT with a larger Bank (1000u) now, playin a 250-spin session you see, those 3/4 of those "losing sessions"/ recovered and the losses was reduced, even 1 session turned into a positive BR....Worst from this session was a loss of -640u, so, a TOTAL loss of the 1000u BR never happned Once.....Furthermore, the *best* session with this progression generated a Major profit of +1500u;

Test2.

calculating wins/losses

wins
+1500
+273
+900
+176

losses
(500) -630
-39
(500) -11
(500) +74
-425
(500) -189

Total= +1629u



RX-Code "X9-Progression"

Code Select Expand

system "Goldking X9"

method "main"
begin
   while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3]
              to Record "progression" Data
  end

   Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
   split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
   to Record "Bet1" Layout
   
   Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
   split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
   to Record "Bet2" Layout


  while on each spin
  begin
 
if total spin count=250 each time
begin
stop session
end


If any number bet lost each time
begin
  add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end


If number 5 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 8 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 11 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 26 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 29 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 32 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

        if number 5 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
       end
     
      if number 8 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
        end

     
      if number 11 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 26 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 29 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 32 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end



    If number 5 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 8 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 11 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 26 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 29 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 32 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end





  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
   clear Record "Bet1" Layout
   clear Record "Bet2" Layout

   Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    End


  end
END

[Mako]

Man it is sooooo nice to have the RX code, thanks for providing that Iggy.

5 runs, downloaded spins, X9 progression, 1u bets:

[ignatus]

Man it is sooooo nice to have the RX code, thanks for providing that Iggy.

5 runs, downloaded spins, X9 progression, 1u bets:

Wow man, that was no good resuts..eh...you need to run atleast 10 session and calculate the Profits/losses from that...

Just finished 4*10 Live-sessions now, *All were winner* (as you can see??) 

calculating wins/losses

Test 1.

wins
+691
+533
+1375
+288
+195
+293

losses
-60
-135
-109
-707

Total= +2364u

===========
Test2.

wins
+1500
+273
+900
+176

losses
(500) -630
-39
(500) -11
(500) +74
-425
(500) -189

Total= +1629u

===========
Test 3.

wins
+464
+278
+155
+47
+1650
+305

losses
-656
-861
(1000) -68
-412

Total= +902u

===========
Test 4.

wins
+783
+1302
+343
+311
+1171
+706
+792

losses
-230
-48
-1161

Total= +3969u

========================

Grand Total= +8864u

[Mako]

5 more, downloaded spins, X9 progression, 1u bets.   This is all with the X9 progression code as it is above, no stoploss limits other than what's in the code as Iggy wrote it.

Which brings my 10 test total to:

Wins
+959
+634
+784
+418
+792
+1018

Losses
-774
-414
-384
-181

Total = +2852u 

[ignatus]

5 more, downloaded spins, X9 progression, 1u bets.   This is all with the X9 progression code as it is above, no stoploss limits other than what's in the code as Iggy wrote it.

Which brings my 10 test total to:

Wins
+959
+634
+784
+418
+792
+1018

Losses
-774
-414
-384
-181

Total = +2852u 

omg omg  You know what this means, right? We're gonna be rich soon! haha 

Thanks for testing mako 

[Thanatos]

Well now, ran a third test with the "A21" progression, and had a major loss . Alright....so? Was this the End? no? Again, my wisdom came true- "USE a SHORT, but AGRESSIVE Negative progression" ey? How is it possible to turn a losing session into a winner? well, i did it.... point IS -There is no use chasing a losing Bet. A new wisdom "if it's gonna lose, it's gonna lose, no matter what progression you use", so? Let it lose.(cut that bastard, let it go) ...But then "when it's gonna win it's gonna win, Big" This is also true, FOR THIS progression, it's 18 Steps now;

I call it "The X9-progression"

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 STOP
.... ... ...

This sound a lot like some kind of "variable stoploss". Oh i remembered back when i "invented" variable stoploss, i was so proud of myself for about 10 seconds untill i realised that someone obviously thought of it before me. And sure enough if you google it you get a 1000 trading pages about different kinda stoplosses. Depends on the system if it works of cause.

The idea is quite simple really especially as i guess you dont really need a "stopwin"/goal but only a stoploss. You started with a +400 -400 but has moved on trying different progressions & shorter session length etc. Instead of changing the progression, perhaps adjust the stoploss instead based on the trot direction &/or on session time.

Example: when you start out having a -400 stoploss is fine, but if you 10 spins later has lost 10 times in a row then the stoploss should probably be raised to -200 and/or even end the session completely to minimize the loss. Similar if you have won a lot in like 20 spins like you are 350 unit up then the stoploss shouldnt be -400 either but perhaps even shorter +275 (aka only 75 units down from current 350 winnings) to preserve winnings quickly if a bad streak happens. Been a while since ive touched programming but i guess a couple of counters could do it & then some timebased checks? The hard part is obviously to "tune" it to bankroll/system/progresssion.

[ignatus]

perhaps adjust the stoploss instead based on the trot direction &/or on session time.

Thanks, very good idea!

[ignatus]

Progressioin modified again, now, an ordinary 3 numbers negative progression...

Played with the CTS-(2 cycles 24 spins) This progression is 26 steps, (so pretty close).

Progression: 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,5,5 STOP

Did a short test (60% winrate) with a +400/-400u BR/Stoploss.

Need to to more testings, and figure out the best *BR* for this bet? Perhaps you got ideas. I think 400u is the  Absolute minimum BR for this bet?.,..idk 

Goldking-Acidtester (wg/sl +400/-400)

(Livespins)

W +400
W +400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
W +400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
L -400
W +400
W +400

12/20 = 60% winrate

Wins 12*400= 4800
Loss 8*400= 3200

Total = +1600u


Testing-RX-code

Code Select Expand

[system "CTS Goldking"

method "main"
begin
   while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,5,5]
              to Record "progression" Data
  end

   Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
   split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
   to Record "Bet1" Layout
   
   Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
   split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
   to Record "Bet2" Layout


  while on each spin
  begin
 
if total spin count=300 each time
begin
stop session
end

if bankroll >= 400 each time
begin
stop session
end


if bankroll <= -400 each time
begin
stop session
end

If any number bet lost each time
begin
  add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end


If number 5 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 8 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 11 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 26 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 29 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 32 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

        if number 5 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
       end
     
      if number 8 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
        end

     
      if number 11 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 26 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 29 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 32 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end



    If number 5 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 8 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 11 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 26 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 29 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 32 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end





  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
   clear Record "Bet1" Layout
   clear Record "Bet2" Layout

   Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    End


  end
END/code]