Test a simple Red-Black System

[RP501]

I'm not savvy as far as testing goes, so I was wondering if someone can test a very simple Roulette strategy for me.  I am using Online RNG Roulette Casino.

The Strategy is basically chasing the Red & Black.  The Progression is also very simple - Just re-bet and keep adding 1-Unit after each Loss or Win, until your Bankroll reaches a new +high, then just RE-SET back to 1-Unit.

I would like to find out what is the biggest Bet Unit, and what would be the max Bankroll Unit needed.  I know Table Limits will be hit, but I just want to know what the statistics would be for a NO-Limit Table, like for them High-Roller Whales in Vegas. 

I'm figuring a 150,000 Unit Bankroll would cover it.  Not sure what the max Bet Unit would be.

Thanks!   

[RP501]

I was editing my post, but "time limit" expired.     Here's my re-post:

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I'm not savvy as far as testing goes, so I was wondering if someone can test a very simple Roulette strategy for me.  I am using Online RNG Roulette.  Single Zero European Table.

The Strategy is basically chasing the Red & Black.  Just bet whatever shows up - Red or Black.  The Progression is also very simple - Just re-bet and keep adding 1-Unit after each Loss or Win, until your Bankroll reaches a new +high, then just RE-SET back to 1-Unit.

The Theory is -- The combined "runs / streaks" from both Red & Blacks will eventually cover (at some point) the alternating Red/Black RBRBRB... patterns because of the Progression.  It's a very mild progression, so there will be very long "grinding sessions".  But the mild progression will also reduce the size of the Bets to the bare-minimum, for those rare periods of drastic "losing patterns".

I would like to find out what is the biggest Bet Unit, and what would be the max Bankroll Unit needed.  I know Table Limits will be hit, but I just want to know what the statistics would be for a NO-Limit Table, like for them High-Roller Whales in Vegas. 

I'm figuring a 150,000 Unit Bankroll would cover it.  Not sure what the max Bet Unit would be.

Thanks!   

[Mako]

I'm not savvy as far as testing goes, so I was wondering if someone can test a very simple Roulette strategy for me.  I am using Online RNG Roulette Casino.

The Strategy is basically chasing the Red & Black.  The Progression is also very simple - Just re-bet and keep adding 1-Unit after each Loss or Win, until your Bankroll reaches a new +high, then just RE-SET back to 1-Unit.

I would like to find out what is the biggest Bet Unit, and what would be the max Bankroll Unit needed.  I know Table Limits will be hit, but I just want to know what the statistics would be for a NO-Limit Table, like for them High-Roller Whales in Vegas. 

I'm figuring a 150,000 Unit Bankroll would cover it.  Not sure what the max Bet Unit would be.

Thanks!   

A user named bellagiowner once talked about taking this idea to the double dozens, he basically played as you're describing, but bet on two of the dozens using a +1u progression that only lowered or reset once the balance got back to profit.  Since the hitrate is higher for the DDs versus ECs, it seemed like a fun way to play so long as you didn't make a career out of it and limited yourself to small sessions.

His premise really relied on streaks, that a DD could streak for a long amount of hits, and thus erase any negative balance more quickly than the EC version.

In a few quick tests with live spin data I had the units climb past 100u per dozen (1u base bets to start) and the recovery time went through the roof, i.e., would have to sit at the session for too long of a timespan to make it interesting...spending countless spins in recovery.

[RP501]

In a few quick tests with live spin data I had the units climb past 100u per dozen (1u base bets to start) and the recovery time went through the roof, i.e., would have to sit at the session for too long of a timespan to make it interesting...spending countless spins in recovery.

I know what you mean!  I was playing another System (Practice mode, online RNG) and it took just over 1,000 spins and past 20,000-Unit bets (1-cents) and took just over 2 hours to recover and made a profit of around 1,300 Units!!!  I think I squeaked by with a 100,000-Unit Bankroll (1-cent).

I think the System was placing bets on the Corner 0-1-2-3-4 and Street 4-5-6.  I used TinyTask to semi-automate the betting, which made it much easier & faster!

[RP501]

past 20,000-Unit bets

Miscalculated, it was just 2,000-Unit bets.

[Bigbroben]

Hi,
ok, so just bet last outcome? I'll work something out, if you accept Excel random.

Thanks!

[RP501]

ok, so just bet last outcome? I'll work something out, if you accept Excel random.

Sure!  I just want to have an "idea" of what would be needed, just curios.

Single-Zero European.  Thanks, appreciate it!   

[RP501]

I'll work something out, if you accept Excel random.

... And please Test minimum 50,000 spins.  Thanks!

[Bigbroben]

Tried to attach the file, it'S 5,5 Mb, max allowed is 2.

Will try in another way.  Will run a macro and send results.

PM or email maybe if you really want the sheet with the process?

[Bigbroben]

Ok,
so here are the results of150 runs of 50k spins each, playing the way you described.

Column B is the max prog reached in 50k spins, normally the one at the 50k-th spin since it mostly failed.
Column C is the max score achieved.
Column D: the highest the prog it went until recovery.
Column E: lowest score before it recovered.

The overall results are really bad.
Here is a typical graph:


Attached, the results file.

If you want the process sheet, please send twice 5000$.   

[RP501]

The overall results are really bad.

Thanks for the Test!  I wasn't quite clear on how that translates to what I understand it to be. So, what size "max" Bankroll Units did I need, using 1-Unit progression until Bankroll hits +positive, then re-set back to 1-Unit?

[RouletteGhost]

[Bigbroben]

Thanks for the Test!  I wasn't quite clear on how that translates to what I understand it to be. So, what size "max" Bankroll Units did I need, using 1-Unit progression until Bankroll hits +positive, then re-set back to 1-Unit?

That would be column D plus E.

[Bigbroben]

Indeed RG, 50k spins graphs are uglier than cherry picked 100 spin graph.
It really doesnt compensate for inflation! 

[RP501]

That would be column D plus E.

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Min :  95 +  -1,425,367 = -1,425,272
Max :  11,897 +  -259 = 11,638

Never saw a Test done before, so I'm not quite clear on this.    Would that mean I would need a 1,425,272 - Unit Bankroll?  If that's the case, then that's hard to believe!!    Or is it a 11,638 - Unit Bankroll, which would be more logical.