Good signals from system

[Roulettebeater]

Hey guys

I am sure there are smart guys here in forum, aren’t there. ?
I need your help, well I am testing right now one of the system I have developed and found out something interesting, the system is able to win flat betting within interval of approx 5000 spins, what i did is i have found somewhere live spins (more than 100k spins) I have saved them in a database and stated testing the system against them, I found that for example system won between spin 0 and 5000 then it lost between spin 5000 and 1000 then it won again between spin 10000 and 15000, with win I mean flatbetting profits .


So now the question, as I didn’t gather these spins myself I am not able to discover what is the mystery behind this phenomen, can anyone of you help me ?

If I find out the reasons, I can use them to exploit the system over the long term.


Thx

[The General]

Hey guys

I am sure there are smart guys here in forum, aren’t there. ?
I need your help, well I am testing right now one of the system I have developed and found out something interesting, the system is able to win flat betting within interval of approx 5000 spins, what i did is i have found somewhere live spins (more than 100k spins) I have saved them in a database and stated testing the system against them, I found that for example system won between spin 0 and 5000 then it lost between spin 5000 and 1000 then it won again between spin 10000 and 15000, with win I mean flatbetting profits .


So now the question, as I didn’t gather these spins myself I am not able to discover what is the mystery behind this phenomen, can anyone of you help me ?

If I find out the reasons, I can use them to exploit the system over the long term.


Thx

1.  Is a bet made every spin?

Sounds like normal variance.  When testing your system, also test a random variation of the same number of numbers bet (meaning just guess the numbers).  I think you'll find the results are the same in both tests.

By the way, I have the data if you need it.  Live wheel data.

[nottophammer]

By the way, I have the data if you need it.  Live wheel data.

yes; used it and it gives what other data shows, repeats 1,3,5,7 and 30

[Roulettebeater]

General

Yes a bet is made every spin, but I find it very interesting that after first 5000 spins result was positive, then next 5000 spins was negative, then again positive...

Any idea ? What about the dealers?
Can’t it be that my system works under certain circumstances and doesn’t work under different circumstances?
How can I find out what is that hidden cause that makes the system win ?

[Roulettebeater]

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This is a real example, you can see how the result is trending..

[The General]

I don't really understand what you are doing.

I need more details.

[Roulettebeater]

General

If you look closely at the results above you will see that the first 15 spins produced a net profit (flatbet) then came a wave of spins that produced a negative profit, then at the end the result was again positive..

If you split the results in 3 intervals, you will notice what i mean, that’s exactly what i call alternated result with fixed width

[Roulettebeater]

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By the way, i dont play every spin.... but there should be something hidden that makes the system performance alternates like that... what could it be ?

[The General]

I still have no idea as to what it is that you're doing.  I don't know how many numbers are being bet, or anything else. 

Can you explain?

[Roulettebeater]

general,

the numbers i bet dont change anything, why don't you answer my question?
suppose you have a system called 'X', this system is able to win within intervals and lose within other intervals.

in addition i can provide you the numbers that showed up in the winning interval and the numbers that shown up in the lost interval.. will it be possible for you to detect the causes of this alternation in result?

maybe the ball's speed in the winning interval is slower than the ones in the lost interval? or the dealers are more consistent ? who knows...  does that mean anything to you?  can you use this information / interpretation to make yourself an edge in the game?

[The General]

1.  I doubt that you're correctly measuring wheel speed based on a previous conversation.
And I suspect that you're not grasping the physics of vb prediction at all.

I do this for a living, but If you can't explain the details then I won't bother trying to help.

[Roulettebeater]

1.  I doubt that you're correctly measuring wheel speed based on a previous conversation.
And I suspect that you're not grasping the physics of vb prediction at all.

I do this for a living, but If you can't explain the details then I won't bother trying to help.

That's funny.. how you know that i am not measuring correctly the speed? is this an assumption or a judgment based on experience?

your reply is full of negativity... 

[houseworx]

hello, if that system is easy and i can remake it for another game of "chances" with low HE(1%) i can test it for very very big samples. (even with playing for real, even for simulations)

if you are interested and can explain your system from not roulette side, but winning percetntage possibilities, write to me!


i made something like you written, but for my its needed very very big sample. and variance can be bitch...

link:s://imgur.com/a/5tBMIm0

in screenshot, system "hunting" streak of X wins in row, what occurs mathematically ~ 1 time in 66 000 bets, so you can see 190k bets is above break even. even with profit.

after that you can be even 10 000 unit streak with 1 unit basebet, and it will be only when deviation from normal will be 8x below luck

[Bebediktus3]

So now the question, as I didn’t gather these spins myself I am not able to discover what is the mystery behind this phenomen, can anyone of you help me ?

Use a very simple way to detect what is what. You have some prediction - so that is number which you expect will win. And you see real result.
Now simply count the shortest distance between your prediction and result. Do that on all spins and calculate average distance from all.

In most cases - average distance will be around 9 - that is bad for you because that say - that game is random for you and to win is not possible with such predictions.
But if you will get average 7 or less - that is a good signal for you and that means that advantage is in your side...

[The General]

Use a very simple way to detect what is what. You have some prediction - so that is number which you expect will win. And you see real result.
Now simply count the shortest distance between your prediction and result. Do that on all spins and calculate average distance from all.

In most cases - average distance will be around 9 - that is bad for you because that say - that game is random for you and to win is not possible with such predictions.
But if you will get average 7 or less - that is a good signal for you and that means that advantage is in your side...

Exactly!


To chart... write your prediction, then the actual outcome, and then how many pockets your prediction was from the actual.
Next, plot the difference in pockets on a graph like below.  You want the center of the graph... where it represents zero pockets in yardage.... to of course be the best area.

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Now I know you're trying to probably predict a large section of the wheel, so just find the middle or just the far end of the section if you'd like and use that as the prediction so that you can plot the differential.

Good luck.