DO YOU HAVE A SAY

[Madi]

I am raising my hand against any kind moderation. Here the moderation means controlling your speech by the admin.

Any member can go against the forum rule and admin can do their job. I would say ban would be good  for specific time depending on each case.

Why not moderation?

Cause in this way some people got right to control your speech. In some cases intentional delay is made to reach your speech to the people .

Lets assume  a moderated member is sending some info which may be related to true HG. Why the info should stuck in admins hand and need his/her permission to get through just bcz he has done something wrong before.

A moderated  person might have a say.we need to hear it as well.

I can see a lot of people got warning level( 30% moderation ) stick to their profile for unlimited time. Why these has not been taken down?

I seen in moderation thread someone modrated /banned with no end time.

Why is that? Bcz he used double abusive language. Punishment should be double specific time. Shoudnt it?

Or just bcz he insulted mod he got no end date ? And in case of  general member insulting there is specific time.

We definitely want to hear from moderated member without anyones approval. Speech doesnt need permission. If anyone breaks the rule he should come back with free speech after specific banned period without begging anyone to release his/ her speech.

[Mako]

Madi I like your posts, and I like how you look at the game.

And usually I would be in the "free speech" corner, but not here.

There's a phenomenon in Roulette forums where the 'losers' (people who have yet to find a winning or break-even method of play, and have thrown a large amount of money away trying) take out their anger and frustration on those who are still experimenting with new ideas.

It's tiresome, counterproductive, and needless. 

So even just for that single reason alone, the moderation changes are welcome. 

But, that's not the only reason...all you have to do is spend some time at GF to see what a lack of moderation gets you. ENDLESS ego challenges, insults, distracting arguments that have nothing to do with the game, and just general douchebaggery.

We have good people here, most of whom contribute in a positive way.  The enhanced moderation helps keep it that way, and I feel Turner is doing a good job at it so far.  I haven't seen a case where I thought "ooooh, that was a big harsh", or anything close.

I appreciate where you're coming from, but again, If you read any thread, any thread at all at GF, you know exactly what a lawless wild west of non-moderation winds up devolving into...

[Madi]

I have been a member at GF from last two years.

I am not promoting lawlessness. I am agianst that.

I am saying about short ban instead of moderation. Moderation is just slowing down your speech  intentionally .

I have been there and thats a brutal dictatorship .that is another lawless teritorry. There is lot inside that.

A short ban depending on cases will reduce admins power dramatically and his workload will be less

[RouletteGhost]

The lawlessness at GF is unhealthy for any forum

Moderation needs to happen when forum integrity is at stake

It’s not a free speech issue. A platform to be an ass hole does NOT have to be provided. You are free to leave a forum that’s moderated and post on a forum like GF, or create your own

OP is wrong and can create his own forum.

If you don’t like the rules set forth by a forum owner don’t post.

[Madi]

The enhanced moderation helps keep it that way, and I feel Turner is doing a good job at it so far.  I haven't seen a case where I thought "ooooh, that was a big harsh", or anything close.

You got very  less idea about inside. I am giving you an example.

Read rule number 8.

Then. What? You will find one of steves mod got at least 2 id and using very often like a boss.

But unfortunately you wont have that courage to raise this matter infront of everyone.sorry

[Turner]

You will find one of steves mod got at least 2 id and using very often like a boss.

Well, Iggiv isnt usually here, so that leaves myself.

Can you elaborate please, because I have never had a second name in this forum...ever.

[Madi]

There is no need to  do moderation. No need to beg to mod or ask permission for ur speech. There need to be time limitation. No unlimited . A short ban may be key. A moderated person must have a say  after moderated. Why his good speech is slowing down

[Madi]

Well, Iggiv isnt usually here, so that leaves myself.

Can you elaborate please, because I have never had a second name in this forum...ever.

From mpr

[Turner]

From mpr

I said elaborate, not make it even more cryptic.

[Steve]

Exactly what do we moderate here?

Should we allow blatant trolling and deliberately inflammatory behavior?

If you have something fair to say, it won't be moderated.

[Madi]

Mod for mpr has got two id. Do i need to indicate two id as well or you can have those?

[Madi]

Exactly what do we moderate here?

Should we allow blatant trolling and deliberately inflammatory behavior?

If you have something fair to say, it won't be moderated.

No one saying to allow. The process is to make painfull waiting to get approval . Person can have say against you that you deleted his necessary post during moderation time. We cant hear that. And specifically need timeframe which is unfair

[Turner]

No one saying to allow. The process is to make painfull waiting to get approval . Person can have say against you that you deleted his necessary post during moderation time. We cant hear that. And specifically need timeframe which is unfair

I can guarantee all posts are let through on a moderated person unless they break rules or they continue with exactly what they were moderated for.

Read this carefully, because it is true

People who are moderated are usually moderated because of the defects in their personality, be that ego problems, hatred of authority, jealousy etc

Because of that, I usually get insulted for several posts, then it stops, and I mean stops.

Because of their personality defects, they cant have their posts monitored, so they stop posting.

What you think is me deleting all their posts is them stopping posting.

Some never get it. If you post normal, I let it through.

Some wont ever get it like Lucky7Red, who is still posting insults about me that get deleted. He hasnt posted one decent post since moderation.

One more insult and he is banned.

[Madi]

I got you turner. Did you got the person i mentioned. ? I will wait to see update in your thread. Thanks

[Turner]

I got you turner. Did you got the person i mentioned. ? I will wait to see updated in your thread. Thanks

Obviously you mean Taotie. He was Skakus here for years but that account is dead....Bombus elswhere

Taotie posts with many IPs. All legit, all from Australia.

He isnt associated with any other name. One slip up is all it takes where a VPN user forgets and it is caught in our records.

That inevitably happens. It has happened perhaps 5 time that i know of.

Taotie is Taotie and no one else

We have no way of detecting a link between users if their 2nd names are on a VPN

Ive known him a long time. I like him... I have a similar sense of humor, but he is more bold 

IMO, his wide range of posting (including wind up merchant) leaves me wondering why he needs a 2nd name when he just posts what he feels like posting anyhow.....no holds barred.