$100,000 Holy Grail Roulette System Challenge

[Robbert]

Can passion be banned?

[Steve]

Yes but he is moderated to prevent scamming. He can still teach members something. For example, to see dirty tricks scammers use.

[Robbert]

haha, good point!

[Atelur noisap]

Can you show how your electronic devices earn?
I can show you how I can win and show it with great results and then everyone will realize that I am not lying about what I say, it is not long to prove it and I will shut your mouth.
Then everyone who has judged me like you will eat a really big shit and they will have to repent the rest of their lives for treating me like that.
I will continue to earn money with my grail and you wasting your time in the forums following you, oh God! LOL....
The forums are prepared to catch people of good level about the games, even if you still believe that the forums are for you to win?
Do you think the casino can do anything against a winning game? So why do not people share their HG?
A winning game can not be destroyed by any sequence of random or pseudo-random numbers, nature is very powerful and can not avoid natural laws with manipulation.
No need to create electronic devices and make tramapa, that is a casino scam and when you get caught, you put everything bad in the ass, while steve is at home quietly winning by the dirty work of others, CAUTION!
Now if you have a winning system, get 2m of winning balls, come on !!!
When you show 2m of balls, I draw another 2m.
But you will not do that because you can not and I will do it because if I have managed to do it in any roulette, it will soon be seen who is the fraudster and who is telling the truth.
will fall the myth of Steve the god of roulette ... hahaha.

[Steve]

Still no comment on how you lied about selling then secretly tried to sell via PMs?

Can you show how your electronic devices earn?

We've been through this already. Yes, easily. Read back.

And it doesnt involve faking payout receipts from the same money like you did.

I can show you how I can win and show it with great results and then everyone will realize that I am not lying about what I say, it is not long to prove it and I will shut your mouth.

Then do it already. But don't use your fake payout receipts. Show real proof like I do.

Then everyone who has judged me like you will eat a really big shit and they will have to repent the rest of their lives for treating me like that.

Everyone judged you because of obvious lies that were eventually exposed, not so much for your claims of winning.

I will continue to earn money with my grail and you wasting your time in the forums following you, oh God! LOL....

Actually i think most people don't follow me or agree with lots of what i say. Thats why we often go in circles. Incidentally, most people lose.

The people that agree with me don't necessarily follow me. We just share understanding of basic math and reality.

Do you think the casino can do anything against a winning game?

Of course they can. Banning is last resort. Like the Pelayo family. They didn't know how they won, and nothing was stopping them because the casino didn't understand it. So eventually they banned them.

A winning game can not be destroyed by any sequence of random or pseudo-random numbers, nature is very powerful and can not avoid natural laws with manipulation.

There doesn't need to be manipulation. The casino needs only unpredictable spins and an unfair payout, aka the house edge.

No need to create electronic devices and make tramapa, that is a casino scam and when you get caught, you put everything bad in the ass, while steve is at home quietly winning by the dirty work of others, CAUTION!

I would advise against putting anything in your ass. Your pocket works fine.

Now if you have a winning system, get 2m of winning balls, come on !!!

2m spins isnt needed when you can clearly see computers predicting when and where the ball first hits the rotor.

it will soon be seen who is the fraudster and who is telling the truth.
will fall the myth of Steve the god of roulette ... hahaha.

I thought you said you had proof my computers were a scam and that i worked for casinos. I asked you to show your proof. You couldn't because like with other things, youre full if shit. Again you're angry i stopped your scam. Again don't blame me for that.

[Steve]

You're sinking into the same hole others have. Im by no means a perfect person, but im honest so your attacks hit a wall. You then get angrier and try harder with the same result. The process led one guy to claim i ruined his life, when all i did was be honest. He ruined his own life. I dont think youll go that far, but you're in the same destructive cycle. My fault is i push back when i shouldnt. And i antagonize people who attack me. But if you speak bullshit, and especially call me a liar, ill say something. And understand you arent against me. You're against the truth. You wont get anywhere except deeper in the hole. That advice hasnt worked in other cases, but i gave it anyway.

[Atelur noisap]

Neither I am angry nor do I make any scam and I am simply because you are a scam, using electronic devices is a scam, it is a trap friend!
And if you know as much about mathematics as you do not know what dyksexlic does?
It is based on a mathematical principle that no sequence of numbers is likely to destroy it.
What I do and keep well locked is mathematical, so do not come and talk about math, because you really only know the basics, but it seems that your head only gives you to create electronic devices that cheat.
Why does it bother you so much that says I can beat roulette mathematically?
Soon I'm going to show you, just to shut up and you have to give me 100k, then I'll laugh and show you who is the best and you'll have to apologize for your comments, although you're probably not an apologetic person, but just to prove to you that you are not the only one who can win and without cheating, I will be very satisfied, you will realize that you are not god, just as I am not a god either, I am just a person who works hard and who has been working for years. study just like you, but the only difference is that I do not believe anyone more than anyone, instead you think you're the one who discovered gold.
I have nothing more to say, keep manipulating my information and profile, you have already shown what kind of person you are.
By the way, if I talk to people by private messages if that is what you want to know and of course I give the opportunity to get the knowledge that this is getting, has something that's wrong?
I remember that you sell electronic devices and one of them 80,000 dollars, do not come to me now that I come to sell or that I scam people, first look at what you do and then judge others.
I do not have a problem because you sell your cheating devices, but you do have problems because someone teaches their knowledge and realize that there are ways to earn better than your electronic devices.
Do not be afraid, man! jajajajaja, nobody is going to take your customers, I do not need, but if I need to prove that you are not god and that you are not the only one who can beat the game and less with making tramapas!

[Roulettebeater]

Actually it’s very easy
All you need is a system with slightly over average hits ... then you build up a clever progression like

1 2 4 8 ..
1 2 4 8 ..
1 2 4 8 ..

Then you progress through the progression... all you need is two consecutive hits to recover all your losses

[Robbert]

roulette beater, got any progression idea's?

For like 15 numbers?

[Roulettebeater]

Robert

I dunno what bet selections you use and the hit rate ... you can pm me

[Steve]

And again, no comment on how you lied about selling then secretly tried to sell via PMs?

And again you didnt give the proof you said you would, that my computers are a scam and i secretly work for casinos.

Just once, can you not be full of shit?

using electronic devices is a scam,

You know better than my lawyers, and lawyers of other players?

And if you know as much about mathematics as you do not know what dyksexlic does?

Yes and I could explain it again. But you have trouble with basic math, so you dont understand his mistakes, or that he was just a troll.

it seems that your head only gives you to create electronic devices that cheat.

I know English isnt your native language. I'll repeat it again. Before i developed computers, I developed winning methods that don't require computers. I can win without computers. But my choice is computers because they are quickest and most profitable. Its like having a Toyota and Ferrari. Which would you drive? I'm not sure you even have a skateboard. Is it clearer now?

Why does it bother you so much that says I can beat roulette mathematically?

Ok, its like this. Because i struggle with the reality some people are so stupid they can't understand basic math and reality. Not that they're not capable. Its that even with the irrefutable proof in their face, they still don't get it, or even want to get it. Its infuriating to witness such stupidity. And this is just basic math and a game. Its only part of the story. When i see the same kind of stupidity in more important areas of life, like politics, business, law, and social issues, i see this planet is full of stupid people, and we're all royally f*cked. And its frustrating because the stupidity of these people hold everyone back. We are surrounded by flat earthers. The evil people of the world arent the real problem. Predators exist in nature. The real problem is stupid people. We cant just put them in a ditch. We are stuck waiting for them to wake up.

And that's why i get annoyed when i see morons like you who can't comprehend the most basic principles, and actually appear to think other people are the problem.

Soon I'm going to show you, just to shut up and you have to give me 100k, then I'll laugh and show you who is the best

You keep talking, but im not seeing. I can't think of one thing you've said that's true. Just like when you said you weren't selling your system, but were caught trying to sell via PM. Remember that? There's even more.

I will be very satisfied

And when you finally get a programmer to test your theory, and find out you're been clueless, will you apologize? No. But you'll probably be scamming members via PMs again.

If you had the hg, you would already have the system coded for proper testing.

You are one of many inexperienced fools who come and go, with an inflated sense of knowledge.

By the way, if I talk to people by private messages if that is what you want to know and of course I give the opportunity to get the knowledge that this is getting, has something that's wrong?

What's wrong with you? You bragged to everyone about how great your system was, you baited without sharing and tried to lure people into private chats, and denied trying to sell anything. Then you are caught red handed trying to scam people via PM. I understand you won't admit to being a scammer, but damn, its pretty obvious. Nobody here supported or believed you. Nobody liked you. Blame everyone else too. Im just the guy that banned you from pm to protect members.

Stop blaming me. You are your own problem.

I remember that you sell electronic devices and one of them 80,000 dollars, do not come to me now that I come to sell or that I scam people, first look at what you do and then judge others.

Where did you escape from? I'm open about what i do and sell. I give ample proof.

In contrast, your only proof of your hg was obvious and clumsily faked winning receipts from recycling the same money. Your claims are backwards, you don't even understand basic math, you lie to everyone then secretly try to scam people via pm, then complain you get banned.

Its any of this registering? You have serious problems.

You've had enough chances to keep your word. You've only lied constantly, tried to sell crap to members via pm, and wasted everyone's time. You're a disaster. Its time you get on your bike and peddle your ass away. Stop coming back under fake names and lying about everything including your gender. Take a good hard look at your problems, and stop blaming others for them.

Unless you're next post is keeping your word, i won't approve it. That means either proving to everyone my computers are a scam and i work for casinos, or showing proof your system is the hg like you keep saying you'll post.

[Winner]

Quote: What would you drive a Toyota or a Ferrari  .Faster is not better means more speeding tickets. Toyota takes me exactly where the Ferrari takes me ,has four wheels.
It’s how the cars make you feel like inside your mind . That’s  a fact.after awhile the feeling it gives you goes away and on to the next high .

[Steve]

And to make it clear, scammers like passion have a longer run here than they deserve because:

Previously when i banned them much earlier (for the forum's integrity) some incredibly stupid members claimed i was just censoring the hg to probably to "protect my sales". My technology sales is actually not even a consideration. Literally, not at all, as hard as this for some people to understand. Money is nothing next to honesty and integrity. Perhaps people don't understand this because they aren't in a comfortable financial position, so they would lie for profit, therefore expect others would do the same.

Furthermore, the followers of trolls and scammers are often too inexperienced to identify a scam. Often a new self professed hg guru comes here and amasses ignorant, uneducated and naive followers. And rather than being quickly exposed, the scammer is praised and protected.

If i dare highlight the glaringly obvious holes in their story, i get attacked and accused of having ulterior motives. Even if the guru isn't selling anything, and is just after attention like any other troll.

Even if other experienced players say the same thing as me, the deluded followers attack the experienced players, making up whatever misguided reasoning that works in their heads. Who knows, perhaps they think i secretly pay every educated player, statistician, physicist, engineer, and gaming consultant to hide the hg, so i can sell AP. Logical?

Being attacked isn't the issue. The real issue is if i ban the scammer too early, they become a martyr. This does more damage to member's knowledge than letting the scammer run amok, because it leaves the followers endlessly chasing that one secret they think is missing - and that they may have learned if i didn't ban their guru.

So a more productive approach is i let the scammers run amok for quite some time, until it's so damn clear the scammer is a lying piece of shit. It needs to be so damn clear you'd need to be retarded to not get it. I mean literally, not to offend handicapped people.

I have never and will never censor the hg. If it was ever posted here, i would be just as interested as every other member. If anyone was selling the hg, like passion claims, i would buy it and start using it myself. Thats the purpose if the $100k  challenge.

The reality is if i had the hg, i would use it. I would only license it if i could be assured i could control the licenses, as i do with my other software. And if i had the hg, it would make my technology obsolete. Would that be bad for me? How could it be? I'd have the hg, and it would be easier to avoid detection, so would have greater earring capacity. I am a player and team manager before someone licensing technology.

So if you use your brain and understand what I'm saying, you'd know when i ban some new hg guru, its not because im censoring the hg. Its because the guru is lying his ass off, he's had ample chance to prove otherwise, but clearly and exhaustively proves to everyone he's full of shit - for the benefit of members.

[Winner]

Man why do you even bother don’t you get tired of explaining the same thing over and over .

[Winner]

Your Mark Howie saga went on for ever holy crap don’t know how you keep on.
Get your self a girlfriend.