$100,000 Holy Grail Roulette System Challenge

[Ares289]

If you have the intelligence to find the hg, you can figure out really basic techniques to avoid detection.

Okay, so If you're sure about that, let's conduct a very simple thought experiment:

- Imagine you're living in an alternate world where the basic MARTINGALE PROGRESSION is absolutely reliable and is all you need to win as much as you want by using this while playing roulette.

- For some reason, no one but you knows that this way of playing exists.

- Now imagine that you can't just start playing using this method because the casino would immediately ban this way of playing, completely change the rules for playing roulette, and you would immediately go to jail for the rest of your life.

-There is only ONE casino that you can play at and there is only ONE roulette in that casino.

- There are a lot of people in this casino who closely observe and analyze your every move and there are high-quality cameras thanks to which your entire game will be analyzed even more thoroughly by professionals.

- Now imagine that you'll be able to play as long as you want and you won't even have to take any breaks, BUT you'll only be able to play at this casino once in your life.

- You can only place outside bets.

NOW

Write or show how EXACTLY - STEP BY STEP you'll play so no one will figured out that you're using this method of playing.

If you want you can even make a video showing how you do it.

[Steve]

Okay, so If you're sure about that

I'm quite sure. You act like it's a revelation.

If you want you can even make a video showing how you do it.

Write or show how EXACTLY - STEP BY STEP you'll play so no one will figured out that you're using this method of playing.

I'd use a team of 3 bettors, who each followed the system's application, and spread the bets between them. There are countless ways to do this. The bets that mattered would be larger than other diversionary losing bets.

In normal conditions, you could easily avoid detection. The more closely monitored your bets are, the more complicated the bet configurations must be. If you had a scientific analysis of all bets on the table over time, then simply the more the team plays, the more likely they are to be detected. It is not an exact science for surveillance. If it needed to be very complicated, to look totally random, I'd use software with each player being told what to bet - to ensure bets are optimally camouflaged.

You wanted an example, so here's a simple one:

Spin 1: player 1 plays the system, players 2 and 3 make diversionary bets
Spin 2: player 2 plays the system, players 1 and 3 make diversionary bets
Spin 3: players 2 and 3 play the system (split required bets between them), player 1 makes diversionary bets

There are countless ways to do it.

In the real world, surveillance only look at bets if they're suspicious to begin with. They want you making stupid bets like outside bets, dozens etc. They don't want you making inside and sector bets. Wonder why.

If you want you can even make a video showing how you do it.

You think I have time to make videos about such simple principles?

[Ares289]

I'd use a team of 3 bettors, who each followed the system's application, and spread the bets between them. There are countless ways to do this. The bets that mattered would be larger than other diversionary losing bets.

What would you do if only ONE person could play that roulette at a time?

In the context of my way of playing, I immediately thought about something like that and immediately realized that in my case it's not feasible, because the team would have to consist of too many people, so it would be impractical, besides they would have to know the rules of my way of playing, so I don't want this.

You think I have time to make videos about such simple principles?

If you read what I wrote again, you will see that I started my sentence with the words "IF YOU WANT"

[Steve]

What would you do if only ONE person could play that roulette at a time?

Much the same, except it's one person mixing up bets. The bets that matter are larger than smaller diversionary bets.

And if the system legitimately has an edge, you could also skip spins and make purely diversionary bets.

Ares, none of this is complicated. It is never hard to avoid detection, unless you're trying to win millions in one session.

[Ares289]

Much the same, except it's one person mixing up bets. The bets that matter are larger than smaller diversionary bets.

And if the system legitimately has an edge, you could also skip spins and make purely diversionary bets.

If you constantly win then the casino very quickly figur out that you're using the secret method of playing, OR if you win slowly and not much to avoid detection, then you're only wasting time, because the chance of a big win will be lost forever.

Besides, in my case, I can't just skip spins because it would cause total chaos.
EVERY spin determines the next bet and every next bet is the result of my previous spins.

Ares, none of this is complicated.

OF COURSE, because if you don't have a really effective method of playing, then it's not complicated at all, because the casino just doesn't have any reason to eliminate you!

[Steve]

If you constantly win then the casino very quickly figur out that you're using the secret method of playing, OR if you win slowly and not much to avoid detection, then you're only wasting time, because the chance of a big win will be lost forever.

You're preaching to the person who teaches the choir.

Besides, in my case, I can't just skip spins because it would cause total chaos.

That means your system follows patterns that rely on previous spins, in a sequential pattern. That has never worked.

But maybe you know something nobody else does. So go make money. If you cant because the casino might know, we're back to plastic on your sofa.

EVERY spin determines the next bet and every next bet is the result of my previous spins.

Partially true. Almost every player uses this principle in completely the wrong way.

the casino just doesn't have any reason to eliminate you!

Casinos will boot your ass even if they suspect you might have a legitimate winning approach. They dont need proof. It's private property.

[Ares289]

You're preaching to the person who teaches the choir.

This sentence was referring to the content of the example with the alternative world:

- Now imagine that you'll be able to play as long as you want and you won't even have to take any breaks, BUT you'll only be able to play at this casino once in your life.

SO:

If you constantly win then the casino very quickly figur out that you're using the secret method of playing, OR if you win slowly and not much to avoid detection, then you're only wasting time, because the chance of a big win will be lost forever.

- Because you'll never play again.

That means your system follows patterns that rely on previous spins, in a sequential pattern. That has never worked.

I don't know what exactly didn't work for you, but it's enough for me to know what exactly works for me.

But maybe you know something nobody else does.

I think that I'm not the only one who has this knowledge.

So go make money.

Haste isn't a good advisor, so I don't trust him...

If you cant because the casino might know, we're back to plastic on your sofa.

I have already written that I'm looking for a good solution.

Casinos will boot your ass even if they suspect you might have a legitimate winning approach. They dont need proof. It's private property.

Casinos can't do everything they want because they have to obey the regulations.
The regulations aren't perfect, so casinos take advantage of this fact - as much as possible.

[juanpaulo143]

Well, I think If you extend you offer to real wheels systems, you can then get some offers. But there's a lot more to it, and better ways of doing things.

[juanpaulo143]

Law of a third is one example. It is a meaningless principle that is basic statistics, and cant be used for any advantage. I've explained the maths for it before, which is really simple. Most people need to go back to basics.

[juanpaulo143]

but i am a guy with very good analytical skills.. i have digged deep into analytics and physics and came out with an interesting finding.

[juanpaulo143]

 It is a meaningless principle that is basic statistics, and cant be used for any advantage. I've explained the maths for it before, which is really simple.

[juanpaulo143]

Is online gambling safe?

[yamete]

That's what I do with some versions of the roulette computer. But not thousands of people. I have many different technologies to beat roulette and other games. I sell some, I use some, some I do both, and some I dont sell at all.

Also the point of escrow is so a neutral entity pays what you are owed.
 

[vrsedge]

Is it still valid offer? With my DAG app i will take the challenge using long term strategy with 10 deposits.

[Steve]

You're posting only the demo version.

You're winning with very short and statistically insignificant sessions.

I suspect a little you're not posting losing sessions.

You're playing with RNG.

I find it very hard to believe it's not a scam. Because you'd know very well what your system does with real money.

But most relevant is you're posting outside the sales section, so its spam. Still, in the interests of free speech, sell your system but with the forum's rules, to prevent people being scammed.

See rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9426.0

Basically any selling must be in the open, not luring people away privately where you can spin whatever nonsense you want without criticism from experienced members. That includes no links. It includes videos too, because they are easily cherry-picked.

Im not interested in debating the validity of your system. I dont have time and it has been said before. Still if you manage to snag a few people, its their own problem. But at least here, the forum rules allow free speech, but with protections to prevent members from being so easily scammed.