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Started by Winner, Dec 05, 01:22 PM 2018

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The General

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 04:57 PM 2018
General

Follow me again if you didn’t digest what I mentioned !

The student was able to predict where the ball has left the track !

In 10 trails he had 8 correct predictions.


That's relatively easy to do on most models of wheels. 

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Quote from: Steve on Dec 12, 05:11 PM 2018
This would be the first thing I'd look at. If the ball hits 1 or 2 particular diamonds most of the time, then you could easily be 80% accurate with predicting where the balls from the ball track - even predicting before the ball was released.

That’s not gonna work !
because casino keep an eye on this, if one wheel has a weak diamond then it will be replaced !
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The General

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 05:27 PM 2018
That’s not gonna work !
because casino keep an eye on this, if one wheel has a weak diamond then it will be replaced !

You forget who you played next to. 
Every wheel has a dd to some degree.  Some much better than others.  LOL!  :xd: You give casinos way toO much credit. 
Don't be lazy, go out and check them.  In some casinos the tables even wobble when people lean on them.

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Quote from: The General on Dec 12, 05:24 PM 2018
That's relatively easy to do on most models of wheels. 

Welcome to the world of AP play.

General

Don’t underestimate the effects of bouncing on final result !
It can have tremendous effect on your score !

I am not sure but I think there is no device / computer today that can remove or minimize this effect !

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Steve

You'd think the casino would instantly replace a wheel with dominant diamonds, but they dont. Once the ball track is more worn in one place than another (inevitable), it will develop dominant diamonds and the casino wont be so quick to replace the wheel.

Even if the casino tries to level the wheel, it might reduce dominant diamonds but then the ball wont fall the same way at particular parts around the wheel. I call it asymmetrical scatter - I explained it in more detail in another post.

Basically its almost impossible for a wheel to be completely unpredictable. But most players cant even beat the most predictable wheels, because they're looking at things like repeaters.
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Roulettebeater

Quote from: The General on Dec 12, 05:34 PM 2018
You forget who you played next to. 
Every wheel has a dd to some degree.  Some much better than others.  LOL!  :xd: You give casinos way toO much credit. 
Don't be lazy, go out and check them.  In some casinos the tables even wobble when people lean on them.

:xd:

Yeah ?
I guess because most gamblers like you are obese ! :xd:
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Steve

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 05:37 PM 2018I am not sure but I think there is no device / computer today that can remove or minimize this effect !

If the ball track and ball are in reasonable condition, and ball rolling deviation isnt too bad, then you can minimize scatter by isolating to spins where the ball falls more predictably. For example, betting only when the ball is predicted to hit a specific diamond.
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The General

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 05:37 PM 2018
General

Don’t underestimate the effects of bouncing on final result !
It can have tremendous effect on your score !

I am not sure but I think there is no device / computer today that can remove or minimize this effect !

Roulettebeater,

If you say so.   ::) I've already given you enough information.
Perhaps you should stick to slots instead.

Perhaps the computer would stop the scatter if you placed a heavier computer on top of the wheel instead of a light weight one.  :twisted:
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Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 05:39 PM 2018
:xd:

Yeah ?
I guess because most gamblers like you are obese ! :xd:

You're definitely not talking about me.  I'm USDA certified lean!  :thumbsup:
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Roulettebeater

Quote from: The General on Dec 12, 05:40 PM 2018
Roulettebeater,

If you say so.   ::) I've already given you enough information.
Perhaps you should stick to slots instead.

Perhaps the computer would stop the scatter if you placed a heavier computer on top of the wheel instead of a light weight one.  :twisted:

No a computer won’t do it, it needs a strong magnet  :xd:
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Roulettebeater

Steve

I would like to come back to your question yesterday whether it’s before spin or during.

But how can these kind of predictions occur before ball launch ?

Do you mean that the player needs to make the caluculus for the spin in progress, and then the result will be considered valid for the next spin?



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Bebediktus3

I think, better you will learn from that your student how he predicts 8 from 10 times right where ball start fall, than to think how somebody does before ball launch :) .
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Steve

If the ball hits a diamond 80% of the time, do you really need to know the ball speed to guess correctly 80% of the time?
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Roulettebeater

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Dec 13, 04:33 AM 2018
I think, better you will learn from that your student how he predicts 8 from 10 times right where ball start fall, than to think how somebody does before ball launch :) .

Boy,
Didn’t you see what I said ?
Even if you know where the ball starts to fall, you still need to consider the ball jumps!

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Roulettebeater

Quote from: Steve on Dec 13, 04:38 AM 2018
If the ball hits a diamond 80% of the time, do you really need to know the ball speed to guess correctly 80% of the time?

Again?  you really need to give up talking about dominant diamond !

Dominant diamond is dead!
It’s as same as you look for a biased wheel, how easy is it ?  Almost near impossible!

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